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I agree, however there are a lot of race fans here who are annoyed as to what's happened to Indy Car racing and have every right to vent their spleen, particularly at Tony George.
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What are you guys talking about. This is the worse decision ever! Tony George was a genius and won the open wheel war. He will be remembered forever with all the great war leaders in the world just like George Bush.
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This isn't funny to me, Xpunk.
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You need to laugh at this other wise it consumes your life. I use to get upset and rant and rave on board about Cart and the IRL, the truth is theirs no going back.
The bottom line is the sport needs money badly so that it can reinvent itself, and right now their is no money we hardly have money in country for our schools to be funded properly or small business to get loans. Corporations are not spending money to sponsor teams and drivers because to busy buying people in Washington to vote a certain way they need them to vote. So were going to stuck watching the same crap we've been watching the last 10 years. So settle in, get a beer or whatever you like to drink, and if you like racing watch it and just try to block out your memories of the good old days, or just don't watch it at all and watch something else like Formula 1 or Nextel Cup, or GP Moto whatever there are other options. I mean if you really look back at all of it, watch the you tube videos and read about it. It's actually really funny to see one person who is so self destructive take down an entire sport with him. I know this is going to sound horrible but I think banning Tobacco advertising killed a great deal of money flow that was coming into racing and that's also been a problem for many of the teams who can't find sponsors. I sometimes wish big Tobacco could still advertising in racing. It really was the perfect marriage of two very dangerous life styles lol. Last edited by Xpunk75; 4 Feb 2010 at 06:27. |
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Tobacco advertising killed it off in other ways as well. Marlboro basically forced Penske into the IRL by laws which only allowed them to advertise in ONE series.
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huh.. didn't know thanks for the info.
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F1 and NASCAR both flourished during the time Indycars were in decline. Tobacco had nothing to do with it. It was strictly the split that caused the decline.
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Yes, we know. But CART might have survived regardless but for the importance of the 500 to Marlboro. The IRL was irrelevant to them.
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In their role as primary sponsor. Marlboro wrote a letter to Penske Racing, directing them to change their allegiances and participate at Indianapolis.
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Let's not be naïve, Marlboro sponsorship still plays a big part in motor racing. Penske essentialy have the Marlboro livery on their car in all but name, Ferrari and Ducati Moto GP both "barcode" the logo.
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Not have, had. Penske's cars will most likely not retain the previous liveries. They will be posed for photos at Barber in 17 days, and Power's car will most certainly not be red. We will see about the other two.
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But Helio and Ryan will keep it, no?
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I think Marlboro is gone.
http://www.indycargarage.com/forum/t...w-color-scheme Even the uniforms have lost the red & white Marlboro chevrons. |
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Marlboro are gone, the end of an epoch, reminiscent of McLaren and Marlboro's parting of the ways.
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I'm not sure how"gone" Marlboro is... according some articles, Penske is still receiving funding from the Altria Group, which is what Phillip Morris rebranded themselves as. I would not at all be surprised if there is still tobacco money going to Penske in exchange for at least keeping orange on their cars.
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That sounds like a reasonable assumption.
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