FIA F2 2010 season discussion

[daallo]

After more than a year of this series existing I finally woke up early to see the race live (I had seen the others in replay) and well, just try to see as another International Formula Master (now that it has folded) and not realy another GP2 or World Series that gives you an F1 test and you'll be fine

The racing today was generaly poor but well, I've seen other races and they've given good action.

[skells22]

this should have been done yesterday as well, Eng has been given a pen for his part in the tangle of a 20 sec pen + a 10 grid pen, talking of that there is a suspened ten grid pen for him & stoneman if the drivers misbehaved again.
as per normal Palamer on pole for Todays race

[skells22]

this is the 2nd time i talked about yellow flags today and this time it was for a car in the gravel and two cars also spun in the same turn and i wonder if the drivers might get a stiff talking from race control. for once Stoneman wins the race (just watch the race)

[p-matt]

Originally Posted by skells22

this is the 2nd time i talked about yellow flags today and this time it was for a car in the gravel and two cars also spun in the same turn and i wonder if the drivers might get a stiff talking from race control.

It was pretty bad. If I recall, Jerome d'Ambrosio got disqualified for something similar in GP2 Asia a few years ago. Afanasiev and Teixeira both deserve grid drops for the next race at least.

[F3L]

Originally Posted by Mach3

Peebee - I don't think you meant it but your comments come across as a slight to Bailly, who actually deserves credit i think for his performances this weekend.

I think instead Shaddix sums it up very well - there are some good drivers, the racing has been pretty enjoyable to watch and if it helps young drivers like Bailly develop it can't really be a bad thing

Very close field with top 11 cars within 1 sec I think in qually. Seems Bailly has good speed and now confidence while Stoneman is very aggressive, Palmer is very cool headed and quick,. Bratt needs a good result and I would expect thereafter similar performances, Clarke knocked out by Snoeks in second race but fast. Brands can be a little boring but this series showing a very competitive run now with the mid runners catching as they learn there set up.

[skells22]

well, there was a pen given and it was to the 3rd place man for not respecting the track limits of 20 seconds

[skells22]

it looks like next weekend British F2 round will not be live at all as there is too much on if in UK, got touring cars, got fast bikes and of course the slow bikes and there is no room for this so it looks like i have to go to the web site to see both the saturday and sunday races live.

[bella]

here's a bit of a revolutionary idea - why not head down to brands and actually see it in person?

[p-matt]

Originally Posted by skells22

it looks like next weekend British F2 round will not be live at all as there is too much on if in UK, got touring cars, got fast bikes and of course the slow bikes and there is no room for this so it looks like i have to go to the web site to see both the saturday and sunday races live.

Not live but Eurosport is showing both races pre-recorded. Does the F2 live stream actually work? I last tried it for the Silverstone races but it didn't work.

[duke_toaster]

No, the FIA F2 stream doesn't work - it's geolocked.

[skells22]

do not forgot this race last year was sad. anyway onto the pole man for race 1 is Stoneman

[skells22]

er, i think you forgot to post yesterday result and I think Stoneman might be in trouble after just taking off Palmer as he has a supended pen and i think that might be triggered

[skells22]

pen for Stoneman of 20 seconds after contract with Palamer

[p-matt]

Most bizzare - I noticed Stoneman slowed right down on the final lap and was 2.5 off Gladdis at the end. He should have known that there was a decent chance that he would get a 20s penalty. If he was right on Gladdis' tail he probably would have got a point or two (Lariche in 10th was 21s off Gladdis).

While Stoneman's speed has been very impressive he hasn't demostrated that he is the most intelligent driver out there

[el_cat]

Originally Posted by p-matt

Most bizzare - I noticed Stoneman slowed right down on the final lap and was 2.5 off Gladdis at the end. He should have known that there was a decent chance that he would get a 20s penalty. If he was right on Gladdis' tail he probably would have got a point or two (Lariche in 10th was 21s off Gladdis).

While Stoneman's speed has been very impressive he hasn't demostrated that he is the most intelligent driver out there

Stoneman's tyre was suffering from delamination I understand, probably worsened on the last lap hence the lost time.

[karimbo]

Isn't it strange that Stoneman gets a 20 second penalty that will benefit Joylon Palmer, who happens to be Jonathan Palmer's (organizer of the championship) son?

[bella]

i thought it was more strange that stonemans driving was investigated whereas palmers earlier in the lap that pushed someone else out wasn't.

[Mach3]

Guys, don't want to open up an argument that has already been talked about too much, but went on the F2 site yesterday and was interested to see Stoneman is on pole and Jolyon is 14th.

I didn't see the qualifying so can't comment too much on their positions, but it seems to put a lie to the "it's his dad's series" stuff...

[p-matt]

Originally Posted by Mach3

Guys, don't want to open up an argument that has already been talked about too much, but went on the F2 site yesterday and was interested to see Stoneman is on pole and Jolyon is 14th.

I didn't see the qualifying so can't comment too much on their positions, but it seems to put a lie to the "it's his dad's series" stuff...

There's still scope for Stoneman to be given a drive thru for something very random in this afternoon's race...

The flaws of F2 are very obvious but I have enjoyed what has been a very close battle between Stoneman and Palmer all year. I would like to see Dean win but Palmer to take it to the wire in the second Valencia race.

[TalkToFrank]

Originally Posted by Mach3

Guys, don't want to open up an argument that has already been talked about too much, but went on the F2 site yesterday and was interested to see Stoneman is on pole and Jolyon is 14th.

I didn't see the qualifying so can't comment too much on their positions, but it seems to put a lie to the "it's his dad's series" stuff...

The fact that JP Jnr. will be heading to GP2 next year does make a mockery of the fact that F2 is supposed to be a direct F1 feeder series and is a pretty huge PR disaster for the F2 series.

[peebee2]

Originally Posted by TalkToFrank

The fact that JP Jnr. will be heading to GP2 next year does make a mockery of the fact that F2 is supposed to be a direct F1 feeder series and is a pretty huge PR disaster for the F2 series.

It's going to be a bigger PR disaster when he actually gets to drive a GP2 car, assuming any team will accept him for testing.

[Mak]

Originally Posted by peebee2

It's going to be a bigger PR disaster when he actually gets to drive a GP2 car, assuming any team will accept him for testing.

Why?

[Bighand]

Because he couldn't drive a greasy stick up a dogs arse. F2 is finished. No one wants to do it, the cars crap and it will lose its FIA status.

[skells22]

at least we saw stoneman wrapped up the tilte and before the wsbr rollover there was a roll over here as well. this time it was the interlocking of wheels that caused this rollover. and at turn 1

[cds_uk]

For what its worth i was pleased to see Jack Clarke get another podium today, not been a great year for him, he has the speed in my opinion, just a mixture of being rough around the edges and some rotten luck, not sure where next for him though.