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13 Aug 2011, 19:49 (Ref:2939331) | #26 | |
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read po ferries terms and conditions, paragraph 10, item V. A fact of life is when vosa are checking if your car/trailor is ok for weigh etc. why wind jobsworth up because you have 50/60 litres of petrol in the boot.
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16 Aug 2011, 20:50 (Ref:2941868) | #27 | |
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Doom & Gloom Dept here......
Cribbed from Anglo-American Oils' catalogue and confirmed by our Dangerous Goods Safety Adviser at work: Unless the driver is ADR trained and the vehicle is carrying specific extra equipment the limit for a private individual is 240 litres of petrol in containers no larger than 60 litres. A business may carry up to 333 litres in containers of either 25, 50 or 200 litre capacity provided that:
Re ferries, P&O do not allow empty or full fuel containers. Seafrance will not allow containers with fuel, but make no mention of empty ones. Britanny Ferries say 'The transport of petrol cans is specifically forbidden' so presumably both full and empty. I expect other ferry companies are the same. The International Maritime Dangerous Goods Code says that you must declare (on a Dangerous Goods Shipping Note) any fuel not in a vehicle tank, and then you'll end up being treated as a freight vehicle which might limit the crossings available to you. Not all ferries carry DG. Apart from financial penalties, if undeclared fuel is found you will be made to dispose of it outside the port area so you can't flog it to the drivers in the queue behind you. On Eurotunnel the restrictions are a maximum of 20 litres in 2 x 10 litre metal containers. Plastic containers are restricted to 2 x 5 litres. For obvious reasons I mostly buy my fuel at the circuit now. |
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So from a tourist POV, leave your spare can at home and buy one over the channel and dispose of on return. From a racer's, dry break fuelling systems or TufJugs need thinking about.
In the UK as an individual, the limit isn't going to worry me, nor indeed VOSA. A couple of years back I was accosted filling three 20 litre jerrycans. Turns out it was local petrol trading standards checking the garage. When I told them I was going racing and they were for personal use there was no problem. I was requested to put a better label on the cans that was all. Last time we got fuel for Alex's karting they wouldn't let him pay even though they'd seen me putting the fuel in the cans and I was with him. So Alex had to give me his card and PIN and they were happy! No point in arguing. |
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13 Sep 2011, 19:27 (Ref:2955096) | #29 | |
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Yes, I think they must be the most miserable pair of petrol station operators in existence and I regret ever single litre of fuel I had the misfortune to purchase from them in desperation a couple of years ago. .... over 100 regrets
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No one would think they were actually in business to sell the product FFS!
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The petrol companies make their money refining the crude oil into petrol etc and effectively run the petrol stations as an 'almost loss leader'. Perhaps if they changed the sign to "5 litres in a plastic can or 20 litres in a metal one per grocery item purchased" then everybody would be happy! |
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13 Sep 2011, 21:02 (Ref:2955146) | #32 | ||
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I quite agree having run a filling station for 20 odd years.
After the health and safety and weights n measure mobs take loads of money it's impossible to earn a decent wage unless you flog everything else. You have to pay load for load and a good percentage that you sell goes on accounts that you may not get the money back quickly (or at all) ! Big sites on main roads are the only ones that can survive but the smaller village garages (like the pubs) are few and far between now with most turned into houses unfortunately |
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18 Sep 2011, 20:28 (Ref:2957747) | #34 | |
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My first job was as a garage manager, for Ultramar (Q8) and later Heron in the 70's. During a quiet hour at work I Street-Viewed the dozen or so garages I ran, none are still selling petrol and most don't exist at all. Remarkably, our local village garage still has 2 pumps and Sue comes out to fill your tank for you. They even have free air! Not many like that left.
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Got collard today, in the middle of filling 9 jerry cans using 2 pumps @ same time
Came & said shell policy is 2x20 ltr, but were kind enough to let me finish. How long does everyone recon before petrol starts to 'go off' as I leave it in the car for up to a couple of weeks, any longer & I pump it out for my road car |
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I guess it "may" start to go off....but in the last couple of weeks I dug out a couple of cars (A Suzuki Vitara and a Fiat Marea) that had been parked up in my unit for around six years.....hooked up to a decent battery both started within a couple of seconds, if that, and ran fine........so if the fuel does go off, it isn't that critical Both these cars had been bought from salvage auctions over six years ago, so the fuel could conceivably have been up to 7 years old........
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