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From what I read, the battle is between TTA teams and STCC bosses. I think that TTA teams won't fold into STCC. STCC-prone teams are much more likely to join the TTA championship if it wins the war.
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So TTA is now using the BTCC NGTC regs?
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No, STCC want's to use NGTC rules in 2013(?) but TTA is going to run Solution-F spaceframe cars. They're also going to use KERS and push-to-pass which means the cars won't be interchangeble with BTCS. Infact teams won't be able to buy cars, they buy a stake in TTA.
I really don't like S2000 so I'm glad to se a change but I'm far from shure this is the way to go. |
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So I got bored and ran the TTA-Forum through the Google Translator last night... some bold statements from Flash, especially this one:
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You think that's a bold statement? Then you've missed a lot of Flash's statements, but that's understandable since he has pretty much only talked in Swedish media. He has said that only one series (TTA or STCC) will survive, and TTA is not going to be other than a success. No further comment needed.
TTA can probably become a good championship, but Flash's statements has led to a lot of people having very high hopes (including me). I'm afraid every failure during 2012 will get highlighted in media because of their general "we are best" approach. TTA has contributed to the war between STCC AB by putting pressure on the track owners. They've pretty much said that if you want SRL/TTA to race on your track, than you must say no to STCC AB in a written agreement. TTA wants exclusive rights. I wouldn't be suprised if they have some sort of agreement for new teams joining TTA (like how they are not allowed to race together with STCC, either in STCC itself or any support races). This last thing is only what I believe and hasn't been leaked, but I wouldn't be suprised if there was such an agreement. That's how infected this debate is in and also a hint of how low people can go in our poor little country. TTA would have been a great concept if it wasn't for all the dirty tactics involved. Not saying that STCC AB has been much better either... |
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The French don't have a proper touring car championship. Peugeot and Renault have works teams in the Argentine TC2000 to promote their 408 and Fluence, but not in their home country. If Flash can convince FFSA to run a similar championship, it could get a bit of inertia.
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France had a silhouette series comparable to TTA. It folded years ago.
Belgium has already something like TTA: BTCS. But it isn't very successful. Of course it could be Flash is right. It would be nice to have this here in Holland. |
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The Dutch GT4 series seems to be struggling lately, so there might be an opening there in one or two years time...
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Struggling yes. Like always (rising) costs is a reason but also (like always ) the performance balancing. A one make series would solve some problems, although a top level series will always struggle in Holland.
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But at least you guys have a few international events. Sweden has pretty much none (which I think is one of the reasons STCC has been so succesful, it's all the casual fan knows apart from maybe F1.)
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Sebastian Hohenthal has tested with Flash Engineering, i would love to see that happening! Sebastian is way too good not to be racing.
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Holy **** that Volvo looks SWEET. I wish we had something like this in America.
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Someof the best racing..too bad it has been watered down a bit. Even the old world challenge TC is a mess now in rule set...
I saw the TTA test videos at touring car times and it look good soundsgood but it seems like it is DTM lite- maybe that's what people want I don't think so though Last edited by gttouring; 1 Nov 2011 at 00:41. Reason: oops |
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They aren't all that bad, but they have more power and weigh less than the TTA cars, and I think they are almost too "easy" to drive. Certainly to the point that decent amateurs (Patterson, Pew, Brown, Rojas if you're feeling mean) can jump into them and be pretty much on the pace. And to add to that I'm suspecting the TTA car will have more aero grip than the DP's.
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Aren't the GT cars i Grand Am also silhuettes? Like the Speedsource RX-8, Turner BMW's and the Camaro's. I saw a tech review of the RX-8 and it was not a production based car at all. But they do look really nice, with the correct shapes and proportions.
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It's not like the DP's have a very smooth profile right now. Add to that the simplicity of their bodies and compare with Solution F. I'm no expert in this area and it would take someone like Mulsanne Mike to settle it, but that is my suspicion. In a few months we'll find out. |
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