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Some others: -Vitor Meira in the 2006 IRL season. He was reeling off 2nds and 3rds where it was an open question on whether Panther Racing would make the next race due to finances as in the team would be closed. He finished that year 5th in the standings ahead of people like Kanaan and Franchitti. -Maybe not Senna in the '90s. But Senna's run with Toleman, especially the race where he was 2nd to Prost in the rain at Monaco. Toleman would be the equivalent of what in F1 now, Caterham? Williams? -Random Indy 500 runs: one year Gary Bettenhausen per Donald Davidson apparently his car was pretty bad and he was starting way back. Gary told his wife pre-race "don't you and the kids go too far away, let me go out and when this piece of sh*t breaks we'll get out of here fast". Well the car never broke, Gary wound up finishing 3rd, and post-race Donald went to see him and Gary was lying down on the garage floor with his driver suit off and sweat just pouring off of him. Buddy Lazier winning Indy with a broken back. I'll never forget Max Papis in the final 2 hours of the Daytona 24 Hours one year getting 3.5 of 4 laps back on a sick Riley & Scott doing qualifying speed lap after qualifying speed lap. Last edited by Flyin Ryan; 24 Mar 2012 at 03:06. |
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The story also reminds me of the story of Mansell's '89 Brazilian GP win, which there are similarities to. I remember the days when Lazier was just a no name who ran at the back of the field. The feeling of stunned surprise stayed with me the whole day at the realisation he won Indy (even if it wasn't a real one!). Next, you'll be telling me about the time Eddie Cheever won a race... |
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(One thing I very clearly remember about old CART was the class structure, there were haves and there were have nots, and the difference between the two was much wider than the difference between Lotus and Honda/Chevy in this year's Indycar series. It was more like the difference between McLaren and HRT in modern F1. You look at some old race footage on Youtube, take a look at how far back some of the qualifying times were once you get to say 10th or so.) The man was good at Indy. I was at the 2005 race and he took a worthless POS Chevy engine to 5th place in a one-off drive for Panther. Looking at his other results he got 4th in 1997, 2nd behind Cheever in 1998, and 2nd behind Montoya in 2000. Honestly though, if he crashes in 1996 during the 500 with his existing back injury, he could've easily been paralyzed. So you have that hanging over your head and you go out and win the race? That takes balls. Other guys that have done something comparable to that: Rick Mears when he went to the hospital in a bad accident and came back the next day to set pole speed. Last edited by Flyin Ryan; 5 Apr 2012 at 20:57. |
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Flyin Ryan, I don't know if you were offended with my post or wanting to give me a history lesson but, I wasn't having a crack at Lazier. Instead, I was recalling my experience when I first heard that it was Buddy who won Indy.
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The CART was a bit poor in depth in the late 80's early 90's but then went through a halcyon period from 1995-2001. In that period many teams and drivers could win and the field was ultra competitive with top level North Americans, South Americans and European pedallers. Zanardi once said it was like racing in 'a big F3000 series', which considering how close that formula was in Europe is no insult at all. Anyone who achieved mutliple success in that era, or even managed to win more than a couple of races at a time was a real hero! |
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