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Yeah, don't know where people get this GTE's are as fast as DP's. They're ~200kg heavier and produce a little less power. They're aero is probably better which is why they're not so far behind at certain tracks.
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I know we are getting way ahead of ourselves here, but if DP or even LMP2 was the top class in this new series, what would the organizers do if Audi, Toyota, and Porsche all wanted to race their LMP1s in the Daytona 24 or Sebring?
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ptclaus, please help spread some sense to the Trackforum sportscar forum with me.
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If you don't like the way DP's look that's great, but don't give me some BS excuse about cars being the stars like it's the grand reincarnation of Can- Am with no holds barred design and true innovation that changes the landscape of automotive design. LMPs cost a lot more and race at Le Mans for the effort. That's great. The real kicker is that most of the people boohooing and waxing poetically about the grand nature of the ALMS were the same people vehemently against the Delta Wing and what it stood for. |
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Another GT car would have won in 2004 if Goodyear would have brought enough proper rain tires to the race as the winning DP (Doran #54) had a motor that was failing and the two GT cars (Orbit GT3 RSR and a Flying Lizard GT3 Cup Special) were closing at the end. However due to the red flags and heavily extended cautions due to lack of rain tires for the DP's the GT cars weren't able to get to the winning DP before the end of the race
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Just doing some quickie math doing fastest race laps by class, at the two tracks both ALMS and G/A have raced at in 2012, Mid Ohio & Road America (G/A hasn't been to Laguna Seca or Lime Rock yet).
P1 = 100% P1 100.0% P2 104.0% PC 106.7% GT 112.3% GTC 120.0% DP 108.9% GAGT 117.7% |
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I hadn't checked any Motorsport news since Thursday. Wow.
The thick plottens. What now for Corvette? Flying Lizards? Dyson? Dempsey? These guys want to race at Le Mans but in a few years' time, the US won't have a series to race ACO cars in. I fear repercussions on both sides of the pond here. |
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I come back from my daily duties and this is what shows up! I jumped out of my seat! I won't be going through 8 pages but I will put in my 2 cents.
I believe this sadly ends the relationship between Le Mans and North America. I see the new series having updated DPs, GT3s, and Grand-Am GTs. A lot of factors led to this but I can't see light at the end of the tunnel. Having NASCAR basically run sportscar racing...that sounds like trouble. I guess we will just have to wait and see. |
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I just have a horrible feeling they are that stupid! I don't see a GA-ACO relationship magically forming. And Grand-Am already have Corvetter and BMW (?) anyway.
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Ends? What relationship was left between the ALMS and Le Mans? The Corvettes in GT? None of the teams in the prototype classes show up to run le mans, and only a handful of GT teams do. There's nearly as many Grand Am teams that show up to run Le Mans as there are ALMS.
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The FIA has had major representatives at the last two Daytona 24 hour races, and at all of the "NAEC" events this year for Grand Am. Grand Am's top brass were all in attendance at the Silverstone WEC race last weekend. There's more of a relationship than you think.
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