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17 Jul 2012, 13:52 (Ref:3107576) | #26 | ||
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Zak, could you scrounge some RS3100 bodyshell pics to post here? I'm about to start building a bodyshell for a semi-replica (rally car built to RS3100 homologation) and need to understand what was done for the rear suspension.
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Greg,do you not have the homologation forms for the period upto 74?
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The 1971 Group 2 regs didn't regulate the 'non-visible' parts of the body or anything below the wheel hub CL. Technically all floorpan modifications were unrestricted and multiple links and extra springs could be added to the axle. The forms didn't need to show bits like the FIA and MSA now require 'period proof' for. Hence my quest to get as much RS3100 'period proof' as I can in the form of pictures of period cars and then select what I need from that. I'd like my bodyshell to be completely Gp2 RS3100 with the exception of wheel arches and rear radiators (which could be added later if I ever sell the car). Everyone who has ever driven a Capri knows that rear axle steer and lack of traction is a major challenge. I'm pretty sure if the rear axle is located correctly as per period Cologne cars that it could be a Cat 2 911 beater on tarmac. A 12-valve Essex engine will match the Porsche for torque and horsepower. |
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18 Jul 2012, 07:08 (Ref:3107843) | #30 | ||
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Hi All,
I seem to remember they were Granada??? Look very close if not the same to the items in my Zakspeed. Cheers. |
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When I was restoring my AMR car I nearly bought an entire Mk1 Transit to get the inner wheel arches. Eventually I found a fella who sold obsolete panels who had some new ones. The wonders of the internet! 32 Euro in postage later my German car mag showed up today, no detail pics of suspension. Anyone want a German car mag? Lovely pics of lightweight E-type. |
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18 Jul 2012, 11:19 (Ref:3107935) | #32 | ||
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Based on these pics (you'll need to zoom) the arches are not from a Grenada.
http://www.thetattoostudio.co.uk/myc...een/progress8/ Jeff at Xpress panels is having a look as well. |
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18 Jul 2012, 12:54 (Ref:3107985) | #33 | ||
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Top picture,they look identical to my MK2 Capri,bottom picture must have been intended for a four door saloon?
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Scroll down on this page to the picture of the boot with the fuel pumps. Even the Gp5 Zak escort used these same inner wheel arches.
http://oldschool.co.nz/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32213 http://oldschool.co.nz/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=32213 |
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19 Jul 2012, 05:56 (Ref:3108381) | #35 | ||
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Sorry Greg,not sure why i did it but those arches with the inner pressing going towards the wheel are MK2 Capri.
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19 Jul 2012, 07:54 (Ref:3108424) | #36 | ||
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Hi All,
Photos of the 73 Works spec uprights just being completed here in NZ. We cast these in Magnesium. Cheers. |
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http://www.restore-a-ford.co.uk/RB_Mk33S.html The 'evolution in production' Mk2 bodyshell wasn't produced until 1974, the Mk1 RS3100 sold alongside it. Please post pics of what you have. |
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13 Aug 2012, 18:12 (Ref:3119441) | #39 | ||
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Ric Wood says he spoke to a man in Germany who says the inner tubs on the Cologne Capris and Zakspeed Escorts are from the German P5 Ford Taunus. Looks like I'll be overheating Google to find a pair of them!
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4 Oct 2012, 13:20 (Ref:3146062) | #40 | ||
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No luck with Taunus inner wheel arches. If anyone has any ideas I'd really appreciate it. Would really hate to put fabricated inner arches in a mint car like this but they are available for Escorts.
I recently read that there was only ever one Broadspeed Capri and it was written off, does anyone know for sure? |
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4 Oct 2012, 15:54 (Ref:3146140) | #41 | |
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Yes the Broadspeed Capri was written off at Silverstone in 73, I was driving along side it when it went end over end. They dumped the shell back in the paddock and then a JCB dumped the engine back where it sort of should be. That was not repairable and Matthews was lucky not to loose his life.
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4 Oct 2012, 16:41 (Ref:3146165) | #42 | ||
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As I recall it, the Broadspeed Capri was destroyed at the British Grand Prix meeting at Silverstone in 1973 also involving Dave Brodie's Norman Reeves Escort, and Gavin Booth's Mini, which was being lapped at the time.
The Broadspeed Capri was significantly different from a Cologne car, having all kinds of trick suspension. |
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Thanks.
What then was Vince Woodman's car that JD Classics list as a 1975 (??!!) Broadspeed Capri RS3100? http://www.jdclassics.co.uk/Brands-H...-Festival-2012 The RS3100 didn't exist until 1974, further down this page there is a picture of an RS2600 that was involved in the Silverstone accident and it says there were two of them. Possibly three Broadspeed Capris in total or maybe more? http://z14.invisionfree.com/Classic_...?showtopic=331 Last edited by Greg Cozier; 4 Oct 2012 at 17:44. |
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AFAIK the Broadspeed RS3100 Capri that Vince recently sold was only one of that designation and specification built outside of Cologne. However it may have been an RS2600 Broadspeed car upgraded to GAA, side radiators, later bodywork etc?
JD Classics, as said, are now custodians of the iconic car and may have all that history documented. |
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7 Oct 2012, 16:03 (Ref:3147655) | #46 | ||
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What wing mirrors did the zakspeed Gr2 escorts run?
where they the same as gr5 escorts and the gr2 capris? Im sure they were off something 'random' but a stock item |
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8 Oct 2012, 11:05 (Ref:3148138) | #47 | ||
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16 Oct 2012, 14:05 (Ref:3152875) | #48 | ||
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Hi,the inner wings where custom made,not from any other car,
15 inch inner tubes from Gartrac to Escort MKII can be used. |
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There is little doubt from the numerous pictures I've scrounged that the Cologne Capris and early Zakspeed Escorts used the same tubs, both of which have radial pressings that would seem to be superfluous to any custom builder (like Gartrac, I owned a Gartrac escort with 15" tubs). The only other time I've seen such pressings were on my Alan Mann Escort; they were so distinctive they led me to the source, the Mk1 Transit. What makes you think they were custom made? |
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18 Oct 2012, 12:55 (Ref:3153848) | #50 | ||
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Some images from the Nov. 1973 Fuji 'Tourist Trophy' meeting, where two 2600s ( Mass / Glemser and Hezemans / Moffat ) took part in the main 'Pan Am 500' race.
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