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Would you prefer Michelin's solution of making one set of tyres to last as long as possible, so as not to incur a heavy penalty for changing those tyres?
By "as long as possible" I'm talking 4 or 5 races, or even longer. And you think that tyres are talked about too much now! |
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The Australian GP was also a relatively 'cold' GP, as were the Barcelona tests. The Malaysian GP will probably be more indicative of actual tyre wear.
There is no doubt in my mind that if Pirelli brought only the hard compound tyre to every race, people would then start to complain about how predictable the racing had become. After just a few laps, we would start to wonder if the 'ever so light on its tyres, whilst also being very quick on them' Lotus of Raikkonen's, could fall prey to an engine failure or driver error. Neither would seem likely. In fact, the last few races of the 2012 season were indicative of Pirelli's rather conservative tyre options for those races. |
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19 Mar 2013, 14:57 (Ref:3221227) | #80 | |
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The races were great after the teams got a handle on the tyres last year. Austin was the race of the year.
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19 Mar 2013, 16:05 (Ref:3221253) | #81 | ||
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Pirelli confirming that they will be using the new P Zero Orange hard compound, things may get interesting in Malaysia.
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Hard tyres tend to accentuate the differences in the cars a lot more. Quite often, the cars tend to spend quite a lot of time on this tyre during a race. If your car isn't good on that tyre, then you're in for a long afternoon. This one's Kimi's to lose, I reckon. |
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Well if Kimi had got ahead into turn one on Sunday it probably would have been pretty meh as well.
It was an outstanding race, two wonderful drivers right on the limit lap after lap with not an error or a fag paper between them. Top level sport at its best. But no, actually, rubbish because of something that never actually happened. |
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Yes, Michelin got their 'green' hat on and came up with something along the lines of going head-to-head with other tyre manufacturers to have a tyre manufacturers constructors championship based on how long each set of tyres would last into the season.
Now, if you think that the tyres are talked about a lot at the moment, it would be nothing compared to what Michelin were proposing. The thing being is that any tyre manufacturer can make a tyre that will last to the end of a GP. Michelin and Bridgestone did that, and they were also making tyres that had to be faster than each others tyres at the same time. Easy-Peasy. So, the only other option open to avoid making tyres a contrived product, would be to have tyres that lasted for as many races as possible. The FIA didn't bite. Can't find the article that fully explains Michelin's suggestion, but it is alluded to in this article. " measures to demonstrate - "respect for the environment". " http://www.auto123.com/en/racing-new...b?artid=120537 |
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So now the tyres are delaminating.
Pathetic stuff. |
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So the tyres don't work in Barcelona/Australia temps , the tyres don't work in Malaysia temps , so what is the temperature range then Mr Hembry ?
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23 Mar 2013, 15:00 (Ref:3223233) | #91 | |
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At least we aren't talking about tyres all the time like in the bad old days of Michelin and Bridgestone.
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They're delaminating!? You mean, like the 2005 Michelin tyres?
Most teams seem to be happy enough with the tyres. Some would say that Red Bull not being happy with tyre degradation is a good thing. We can only hope that they start winning races real soon. |
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So tyre delamination on a bog standard circuit is fine because it is Pirelli. Interesting.
Supposedly the tyres are going because they can't withstand the downforce levels of certain cars. Wonderful stuff. |
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Who's to blame?
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/106327 Point being, that if it isn't bothering Lotus, then it shouldn't be bothering anyone else. It's unbelievable! Pirelli make a tyre that Red Bull aren't happy with and people start to complain about it! Just no pleasing some people. Last edited by Marbot; 24 Mar 2013 at 01:18. |
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Sounds like "Pirelli, you got it all wrong !" ????
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