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Or just a choice of how you want to judge the results. One way can be objected to because the car wasn't running at the end. The other way can be objected to because there could be a car that has covered a greater distance than the one declared the winner.
Disgrace? Or just a choice that has to be made. Philosophically I can see the argument for both. And the good thing is that whatever the choice we can be angry about it. |
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I believe mike is speaking of his incident at lagunaseca where he was hit and damaged by the shank car, but there was no penalty because it wasn't even shown or caught by the broadcast cameras so paul never saw it.
Also i don't think this will be much of a factor with lap down wave bys, any time lost from penalties will be regained if the ldwb is played right.....shame. |
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Speaking about broadcasting, do you know if the TUSCC races are live streamed on their website flag to flag like ALMS did? And for Europeans as well
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My primary issue with this is even after talking with him about it, he has no interest in improving the system. It's just The Way It Is. But back to the original point, he was much more lenient on car-to-car contact after the Rolex weekend at COTA. I won't even go into cars failing post race tech inspection with multiple infractions and when the tech steward recommends exclusion from the race he decides "no, it's ok.". Personally, I think he's a nice enough guy even if we disagree on certain aspects of the rules or on their execution. IMO, he's simply overworked on the race weekends and either doesn't have the power or ability to properly delegate responsibility so that more things can be done. Funny, that's similar to my views on how the whole merger has gone down over the last 18 months... maybe my expectations are just to high? :-) -mike |
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Hey At laguna last year there was two or so minutes left after the delta wing caution, which would of given at least two full laps to the p1s.but race control fudged up and only gave one green lap to the finish.after I remember they scribbled in the regs they can do it again if they want.
Pretty much made it so they wouldn't look bad, is that dumb rule still there.i mean if it is its bs to rob us of 3-5 minutes, that's two to three good laps.alot can happen in three minutes. |
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And touching on what lead to the officiating debate, at Daytona, aside from the infield, you have a nice wide oval to pass on. At Sebring and elsewhere, that's where the speed separation will be potentially a very big problem.
I just remember the combined WEC/ALMS race at Sebring in '12, where there were a ton of full course cautions because of pro vs pro-am drivers, traffic congestion, and speed separation issues between classes, and that was largely to ACO regs. The problem there is that the ACO don't want the LMP1 cars to go beyond a certain lap time, or at least above a certain percentage. So we have LMP1 cars that can run the same lap times the 3.5 liter Group C cars could, but whilst doing so, are significantly slower in top speed--the 331km/h (205mph) that an Audi did last year is on the order of nearly, or potentially more than, 10mph slower than the Peugeot 905s did in '93. They want LMP2s to be a certain percentage slower than LMP1, GTE-Pro being a certain percentage slower than LMP2, and GTE-Am being legislated to be slower on average than GTE-Pro though the use of year old cars and gentleman drivers. The old problem is that it's much easier to pass down a straight than in a corner. I don't think that the DP's can be made faster, have to be made faster, nor does it seem that IMSA wants them any faster. LMP2 at Daytona need to be sped up, but IMSA worries that they can't without threatening reliability. LMPC is borderline LMP2 pace, in line with what IMSA wanted (target lap time of a 1:42), but they're the slowest cars down the straights and on the oval. GTE's aren't a ton faster than the GTD cars, which are much faster on top end on the power sections of the track. May not be a huge problem at Daytona because of their being a lot of room to pass on the oval, but at Sebring or any of the shorter or slower tracks where full fields race, there can be definite issues. Especially Sebring, because the last time they had as big a field as they might with the TUSCC/NAEC was the combined WEC/ALMS race, and that probably set a record in the modern era for full course cautions. |
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http://www.imsa.com/imsa101/how-watch-faqs HOW TO WATCH - FAQS On what channel can I find IMSA TUDOR United SportsCar Championship races? All TUDOR Championship races can been seen on FOX Sports 1 or FOX Sports 2. What do I do if I don't get FOX Sports 1 or FOX Sports 2? Contact your local cable provider. Is online streaming available? Online streaming is not available at this time, but will be in the future. Where can I watch archived races? Archived races will be available on IMSA.com 24 hours after the broadcast on FS1 or FS2. |
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And yet a member of the Fox broadcast team says otherwise.
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