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Excellent post Isoskim. I to used to think Crunch might have been able to "step up to the plate" as he talks the talk and walks the walk, however he has yet to stand up for whats wrong with MSNZ, and in doing so put his .....'s on the line. Sadly I see no evidence of that, and the clock is ticking, and ticking very loudly! |
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I don't know about Maxi but the Joe Laing I remember couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag! Admittedly I haven't seen Joe for many years and I don't know if he has stopped smoking, hence his nickname, but Joe used to be a long haired weedy guy that always had a fag hanging out of the corner of his mouth. |
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Oddly enough that is exactly the mental picture I had!
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back to the issues at hand.
is it such a good idea to be grabbing young ex-karters and putting them in a ute/saloon class with no progression?? i would have thought, given that Hartley, Stanaway Evans etc have gone down the openwheeler path to great success, that F/Ford or TRS would be a better fit than another one-make series ? |
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What there isnt in NZ is really a clear tin top progression.
We had Mini Challenge which did run on slicks and wets etc. We had the Suzukis, which ran on dot rated tyres. Then when you step up into a V8 or Porsche from either of these classes im not to sure how much a driver could really translate from low HP front wheel drive road cars, to high power rear wheel drive cars. There was production series, but was there a medium in between (cant remember?) V8 Utes looked like you take all you know about driving a real race car, and throw it out the window. Not sure how much actual driving and engineering the SsangYong series would develop, but again i dont know enough about it to really comment. However it would make a great pure entertainment class, for celebs and sports people to bang doors in as a curtain raiser to the main even during a race weekend. My two cents, Davis Last edited by Dav1s; 12 Jul 2014 at 01:40. |
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A youngster who doesn't have significant family money/connections to support him, is likely to take what he can get rather than sit on the sidelines. |
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hardly anything new lol one make series that claim to be a stepping stone to F1/V8SC/etc
it would be nice to see FF and like.. full of young talent... that progress onto TRS. but like on_to_it said.. it's not easy without the money or contacts. |
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Now what is there, that gets good coverage for young up and comers. Some utes that run at a similar pace as the HQs (correct me if I am wrong), V8 utes????, Suzuki series seems to have disappeared, Production GT (does that still happen) Porsche series gone, and NZV8s dont have enough current generation cars to muster up a grid in TLX guise. I agree there is endurance racing out there doing well lately, but its coverage is basically limited to Facebook unless I am mistaken. I guess my point is, compared to some time ago, there is no classes in existence where you get good coverage, and close even racing as you look to raise money to move up the ladder where you have a roof over your head. Having just typed all that, I just remembered the existence of the 86 series, but couldnt tell you who ran in it or who even won (if the championship has finished) Davis |
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some HQs are faster than others
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The Toyota 86 are offered as a lease package now.
http://www.toyotaracing.co.nz/toyota...-championship/ |
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For events to be viable, you need to realize that we are in the entertainment business.
Punters want to see exciting racing in fast and entertaining classes with large grid sizes, and meet both legendary and famous drivers. The Australian Grand Prix in 2013 cost the Victorian taxpayer $60 million, but of note was that $2 million of this was attributed to Mark Webbers retirement. The 2013 Australian Motorcycle Grand Prix at Philip Island cost the Victorian Govt $11.27 million, and a $5 million drop in ticket sales was attributed to Casey Stoners retirement. When legends like Jim Richards are guests at events, ticket sales go up. I see that a recent announcement that Mad Mike will be appearing at the Highlands 101 in November will be a commercial decision by them to attract an additional sector of the spectator market. Rumour is that Pukekohe will feature truck racing at the November NZ SuperTourer meeting, thus attracting additional spectators. It is good to see a bit of lateral thinking going on behind the scenes for the coming season. ![]() ![]() ![]() This is probably better posted here. |
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