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17 Aug 2016, 17:52 (Ref:3666188) | #1 | |
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Plato gets slam dunked.
all the BTCC teams and TOCA give them this support and Plato still bad mouths them. unbelievable and ungrateful.
http://www.touringcartimes.com/2016/08/17/gow-responds-to-plato-over-equalisation-claims/ |
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17 Aug 2016, 18:15 (Ref:3666190) | #2 | ||
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Gow must be really ****ed if he publicly answer cos he usually does NOT do this !!!!!
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17 Aug 2016, 18:23 (Ref:3666191) | #3 | ||
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I don't know if either party is being 100% honest, but this is the greatest statement I've ever seen coming from a series boss.
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17 Aug 2016, 18:28 (Ref:3666192) | #4 | |
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Yet again it seems if someone or something is beating Plato it's unjust, be it RWD or Turbo boost, yet he doesn't complain if he has a car advantage. Good on you Gow!
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17 Aug 2016, 18:32 (Ref:3666195) | #5 | |
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could be charged with bringing the sport into disrepute ?????
you all remember Team Dynamics was charged with that and had their TBL suspended and a 25.000 fine Last edited by porsche962fan; 17 Aug 2016 at 18:47. |
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17 Aug 2016, 19:36 (Ref:3666207) | #6 | ||
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Ouch, not very often you'll hear Mr Gow speak out like that. Fair play to him, this is why he has made the BTCC so successful.
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17 Aug 2016, 19:49 (Ref:3666210) | #7 | |
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Interesting because articles I had read in the specialist press said the inlet manifold change process was something other teams (like Honda) had gone through as well.
No idea what the real story is but it all boils down to is it an engine parity system or a car parity system? If it's engine parity then the straightline speed difference between some of the cars is certainly showing something is not right. |
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18 Aug 2016, 01:05 (Ref:3666252) | #9 | ||
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Does anyone know which other engines have had the manifold change? I think the old Proton unit did, didn't it?
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18 Aug 2016, 04:28 (Ref:3666283) | #10 | |
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Completely staged PR stunt only. Can't believe people fall for it!
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18 Aug 2016, 07:16 (Ref:3666303) | #11 | |
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I recommended you read Gow's comments again.
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18 Aug 2016, 07:21 (Ref:3666305) | #13 | |
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I did and where does it say that its a car performance measure or an engine performance measure? Big difference between the two.
If it's an engine performance measure then the Ford's shouldn't be able to pull away from most of the cars so masssively and the Hondas shouldn't be lounging at the back. If it's a car performance measure that takes into account corner speed, braking and the level of the drivers driving the cars then that's a different matter but I'd say restricting boost only isn't the best way to negate advantages like that. |
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18 Aug 2016, 07:48 (Ref:3666311) | #15 | |
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I think this is Plato being canny and laying the foundations of an argument if Honda win the title when their 3rd engine evolution arrives.
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18 Aug 2016, 08:27 (Ref:3666314) | #16 | ||
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I also believe that this is a tactical politics game by Plato, he probably has a plan with these remarks in the long run.
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18 Aug 2016, 08:53 (Ref:3666315) | #17 | ||
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IIRC, the remarks he made at Knockhill were when he was being interviewed alongside Tordoff? He seemed to be keen to get agreement from Tordoff that something needed to be done to FWD engines, so that they weren't as quick on the straight.
Tordoff didn't quite seem to openly agree, but Plato definitely knew what he was doing. If he could get a clear agreement from Tordoff, then it wouldn't be just one driver, or a representative from a single marque that would be making the complaints. As it is, it would be interesting to see what validated evidence Plato presents for needing to have more boost (or others reduced). When he was the driver of a car with the highest boost, he published a lot of information justifying why there was no requirement to amend the situation. Currently, it just comes across as whinging. |
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I thought that J-P had been too quiet lately. Not only verbally, but in his driving antics. (I was pleasantly surprised to see that he wasn't involved in any of the 'incidents at Snetterton for example).
However, it looks like his latest success has encouraged him to start complaining again... |
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18 Aug 2016, 21:21 (Ref:3666429) | #19 | ||
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Alan Gow - legend.
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All attempts at B O P have winners and losers and for teams to play politics with a system is inevitable. It is up to the organisers and structure to ensure the nearest to a level playing field possible. Alan Gow is to be congratulated on resisting Plato's pressure and same for Sam Tordoff who knows Plato quite well having had him as a teammate.
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Met Alan Gow many, many years ago when he first came to the UK to work with Andy Rouse developing and selling their Ford Sapphire Cosworth RS304R conversion and found him to be a top class guy, very knowledgeable, very fair, very hard and a real character.
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19 Aug 2016, 12:38 (Ref:3666537) | #22 | |
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I love the way Tordoff and Gow are so not agreeing with the same thing as Plato
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25 Aug 2016, 17:22 (Ref:3667529) | #23 | |
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wow. now his own team has said their engine power given by toca is correct. makes plato look a even more wrong and silly now.
http://www.btcc.net/2016/08/25/bmr-s...-calculations/ |
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25 Aug 2016, 18:38 (Ref:3667544) | #24 | |
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So if the cars are all equal in power how come one can park itself on the apex of a slow corner and still leave the others who are on a faster out line for dead along the straight?
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look at how close the lap times are. that shows the cars are so equal. its just those variables mean they acheive the lap time in different ways which is why the racing is so good. if they all accelerated and braked and performed exactly the same as each other then there would be zero overtaking as it would be impossible to do. |
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