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Exactly my point. Put a big wall/armco at T1 in Mexico and LH wouldn't be able to do what he did.
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5 Nov 2016, 15:39 (Ref:3685514) | #155 | ||
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Ricciardo and Horner want gravel back...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...n-track-limits |
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Just like Rosberg at Canada when he went straight on and gained an advantage by putting himself out of DRS range from Hamilton. As long as it's not for position, they hardly investigate.
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Hamilton ran wide at the first corner and pushed Rosberg off, Rosberg rejoined in tenth. Never referred to the stewards, just like the short cut at Canada by Hamilton was never referred to the stewards, just a decision taken by Whiting on his own again. |
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11 Nov 2016, 16:16 (Ref:3687201) | #161 | ||
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in an unusual step, Whiting took part in the thurday's drivers press conference. (at about the 15min mark and apologies on the poor quality video...couldnt find a better one)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXuhB9kHI-0 dont necessarily want to rehash the debate and im not sure why F1 chose to bring it up again. undecided if this was a great moment for transparency in F1 or just a reinforcement of how F1 has lost the plot/too complex? |
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Whiting is being somewhat inaccurate in bringing the stewards into the Hamilton "short-cut" ruling, the matter was never referred to the stewards. Hamilton's short-cut is contained in Whiting's race directors report here: http://www.fia.com/events/fia-formul...information-19 13.03.08 Race start. Time Car Turn Incident Action/Comments 13.03 Car No. 44 Turn 2 Missed the apex of the corner. Action: None necessary - No advantage Mr. Whiting took it upon himself to decide the infraction and the penalty and the matter was not referred to the stewards. The description is also blatantly incorrect, detailed "as car missed apex of turn 1", car no. 44 in fact, missed the apex of turn one skipped turn 2 entirely and straight lined turn 3. This whole debacle is wholly and solely on Charlie's head! The stewards did not get to adjudicate this infraction, and it is evident that their report containing referrals to the stewards and decisions reached do not include Hamilton missing the second corner. |
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Even if it wasn't, the appearance of the safety car a few seconds later rendered any advantage irrelevant, so not worth following up. Move along now, I can feel some folks' blood pressure needs to drop a bit. |
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As Beryls screenshot shows, Rosberg was closer to Lewis than Verstappens incident. The only reason Lewis got through the T1-2-3 complex without a fight was because he skipped the corner. The whole point in the switchbacks through 1-2-3 is so that cars on the outside can be smart and pull over/under moves. Lewis completely removed the chance for Rosberg to fight him, by skipping the circuit. That, is a penalty in any other series, for any other driver, on any other track, on any other day. |
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MWMs conclusion is that FOM are targeting Sebs radio to try and spice up the show a bit. This sort of radio message is normally not broadcast and dealt with as a fine after the race quietly, and the money is usually donated to whatever road safety charity the FIA is pushing at the given time. There has never been a points or position deduction for radio abuse because it has never been broadcast before, just dealt with quietly. We're now in the situation where FOM can decide on a case by case basis who gets race penalties and who gets financial penalties. |
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