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2 Mar 2017, 14:33 (Ref:3715823) | #5126 | ||
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Paul's always had shady dealings in racing and these have been known. The guy burns me up how many times he's cheated in some way but not punished.
RHR's father is a shady character himself and is the one who funded at least the start of Ryan's career. Rich guys suing each other for 10 years with lawyers receiving large fees is interesting with regards to the sport but is nothing to get too worked up about, IMHO. |
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2 Mar 2017, 16:51 (Ref:3715862) | #5127 | |
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Yeah, it's not like he robbed a church, or something ....
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Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't miss him either, but I don't know enough about PG to tar him with the same brush - although I was surprised that he was Toyota's choice for this programme with so many good options available.
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I was surprised by the choice as well. You have Derek Walker's team ready and proven with in the GT paddock, which seems a no-brainer over RSR.
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2 Mar 2017, 19:58 (Ref:3715905) | #5133 | ||
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100% agree.... a very confusing choice. Unless Wlaker turned them down based upon how they planned to run the program and said, "no... I want a long term commitment, not a one year deal"
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2 Mar 2017, 20:09 (Ref:3715910) | #5134 | |
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It's a one-year factory backed deal. Not just a one-year 'that's it' deal.
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I still have no clue why as a manufacturer you look at all of the open GT teams (AJR, Flying Lizards, TRG, Walker, etc.) you say "Yes" we are going to go with Paul Gentilozzi.
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A very long history of not paying drivers.
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Looks like 3GT has now been named...
http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/13...lozzi-3gt-case Lexus has some thinking to do. I presume they have a contract with 3GT, as do the drivers so I doubt they can simply move to a new team without a legal battle and a bunch of time (and races) lost. Would it be a case of stop racing for the year and go somewhere else for 2018? |
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I guess it's plausible that they got a snowjob from the PG legal team that these issues were being resolved, or something. But still, as a company THAT big, I'd be rather wary of any problems in regards to my brand. Because now, you look like you screwed up, and there are questions on the programs tenure. Lexus needs to save face, and pull out. Then, drop a press release that says you didn't care for the negative press, or it was harmful to your brand, or something....anything that separates you from 3GT/PG and legal problems cleanly. |
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From everything I've ever heard from friends inside the industry working at the team level, is that overall the paddock is a pretty small place and the guys with the bad reputations are pretty well known by everyone. I'd heard comments from a buddy of mine about PG not being on the up and up when he was running the Jaguar program years ago. I think the reason why no one speaks up is that you never know where your next paycheck might come from so like mom used to say 'if you can't say anything nice about someone it's better to say nothing at all.'
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Is Derrick Walker still looking for work per chance...?
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7 Mar 2017, 22:08 (Ref:3717139) | #5148 | |
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3gt changed names from before and seemingly think they're safe from the latest attacks from RHR. Maybe they convinced or were the only taker of the Lexus?
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I wonder if after 10 years of legal fighting if the money spent on attorneys is greater than the 3 million owed. I actually think I'd rather associate with gentilozzi than a lawyer, lol.
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