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The predicted pit stop strategy as shown during the formation lap had: 1 stop medium - hard: lap 17-26 1 stop soft - hard: lap 14-23 Hamilton, Bottas and Sainz all stopped on lap 14, so early in the window but IN the windows nevertheless. If that is based on Pirelli data, then the tires shouldn't just fail on lap 50 (Bottas), 51 (Sainz) and 52 (Hamilton) |
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Certainly wont encourage me to put Pirelli's on any of my cars, that's for sure.
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Isn't it great that things might not develop exactly as they should in the race?
They had a pretty good indication that they were on the way out... I do hate that tyre degredation graphic. Hamilton has 10% tyre left. I don't know what AWS is doing there. |
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I think I am probably coming across as caring about this far more than I actually feel like I do. :*blush*
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Yet again teams pushing the limits in terms of tyre wear, I would be looking at settings etc right now to see if they are pushing camber, pressures etc, it has been known before.
Next weeks forecast is 10 degrees warmer, so sifter tyres will be hopeless. |
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The absolute genius thing about all of this is that there will be a different compound selection for the 2nd half of this back to back at Silverstone.
For me this season has been so massively entertaining on so many levels. |
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Sweet Jesus no.....the amount of road tyre defects they’ve had!
Don’t get Goodyear either....too many failures in NASCAR... ...Or Michelin....plenty of failures in endurance racing ...or Dunlop’s....too many failures in the BTCC |
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That doesn't leave many options.
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And when you see who owns which brands, the choice is even more limited. Michelin - France Worlds number one tyre manufacturer. Own the brands Michelin, BF Goodrich, Kleber, Uniroyal* and Riken. Bridgestone - Japan One of the original big three. Own the brands Bridgestone, Firestone, Daytona and Europa. Goodyear Dunlop - USA Goodyear recently merged with Dunlop to form one of the largest tyre manufacturers in the world. Own the brands Dunlop, Goodyear, Fulda, Falken and Kelly. Yokohama - Japanese A brand in themselves, Yokohama claim to be the 7th biggest manufacturer in the world. Pirelli - Italy Pirelli claim to be the 5th largest tyre manufacturer in the world. Most of it's retail is through the Pirelli brand but have more recently released the Ceat and Courier brands. Cooper Tyre - USA Cooper recently bought the Avon brand. They now own Cooper, Avon and Mastercraft. Continental - Germany Owns Continental, Uniroyal*, General Tyre, Gislaved and Semperit. Toyo - Japan Toyo are one of the newer budget performance tyres to market. Formed many partnerships around the globe. Kumho - Korea Kumho is also a budget road tyre with a strong sporting range. Apollo - India Apollo now own Vredestein. * To add to confusion Uniroyal is Continental owned in Europe and Michelin owned in USA Edit: Hankook is a S Korean tyre manufacturer, and seems to be missing from the above list. |
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Oh welll....off to watch IMSA..to summarise...
....that race was a lot like my sex life, an hour of boredom followed by 2 minutes of excitement and a blown rubber. ...unlike my sex life, we get to do it all again next weekend! |
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Oh welll....off to watch IMSA..to summarise...
....that race was a lot like my sex life, an hour of boredom followed by 2 minutes of excitement and a blown rubber. ...unlike my sex life, we get to do it all again next weekend! Sounds familiar |
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I don't think Bridgestone or Goodyear would even want to come back after the treatments F1/FIA gave them. Kinda like how Pirelli is treated now.
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Aren’t Pirelli doing exactly what the FIA wanted? When we had tyres In the mid 2000s everyone complained they were too hard and didn’t degrade, the FIA didn’t want that with current gen tyres
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