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As an amusing sidenote - we had a truck turned back by customs as it didn't have a Export Health Certificate for one of the products. The product in question? Veggie Kievs |
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Something for Delta and others traveling to and from European circuits may be to take a day or so to prepare a standardized list of tools and equipment which can easily be scanned onto a carnet or whatever. Once done it would take no time to plug into the paperwork and could be used on each trip. The only things that would change are the transport vehicle and the race vehicle(s). |
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Also products that require an EHC can't be included in the same shipment as products that don't require an EHC - so previously a truck would have a mixed load and drive direct to its destination - now you have a truck with EHC product and a truck with non-EHC product (you can consolidate loads to give you full trucks of each) but once on the continent you then need to unload the trucks and rebuild as mixed loads for final delivery. A paper copy of each EHC has to travel with the truck (so at least if the drivers do get stranded they'll have something to wpie with ) Every step just makes the whole process less efficient. The actual process of getting to the port and getting on the ferry is going ok for the most part - it's all the extra faff before and after that's the problem. |
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Hmm, I can see that these processes will get smoother simply because you can redistribute loading (in the case of mixed loads) and presumably the bulk of the loads can be standardised. In your case it seems the only market is the EU, my point about normal for countries outside relates to companies doing business elsewhere, such as Albania, where I've had the most recent experience of import/export/customs.
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All of our "non-EU" shipments are air freight or shipping containers - both of which have their own quirks of course (again requirements can be different for each market). We don't truck to any non-EU countries. The processes for those international shipments haven't changed. My point is that we now have a lot of extra costs introduced purely for EU shipments - for no benefit. |
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it's one of the oldest sayings in management theory and practice - "people don't like change"
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Exact, chez nous cela donne: les gens ont peur du changement.
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In fairness to Bert he's experiencing the "barriers" that we were told would not be there. However most don't see them as barriers since trading isn't barred. From my perspective I see it as normal business in international trade and as Bert says, his company has to do similar processes for other countries.
However, the UK Customs and Excise is somewhat esoteric so I'm sure it will need to improve its processes before long. |
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As Peter says there are barriers that didn't have to be crossed last week, and to go from UK-esque trading to being a full blown exporter is a PITA. Sent from my AC2003 using Tapatalk |
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I'd suggest that the fact we can roll out vaccines waaaay before the EU is a massive benefit.
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This comment may well be tongue in cheek, but it is in poor taste. The fact that the NHS and the UK's health system exists has and never has had any bearing on our membership of the EU. And to the best of my knowledge, the EU has never posed any danger to the existence of the NHS. |
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Down here its not a matter of approval or stock level, and yes we are far behind many countries in some aspects. We can check the fridges remotely as well as trucks but till now nothing is done to check the product itself. And it its said that some vaccines can become harmful when the cold chain has been interrupted. Anyway I'll go for it but can't really find comfortable.
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A little bit surprised by your comment, Bob. Should it be a race, dont you think we must ALL be the winners? A war as well, do we? Scientists of all countries have been working together, or are supposed to have been, that's why the vaccines are available now. Its a worldwide affair, yes?
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Gerard, I think that we may be seeing comments from those of our friends that were not lovers of the EU, and possibly other countries as well. This, unfortunately, tends to colour their views. |
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To be clear, my point was, that being out of the EU we were able to a) fund our own vaccine procurement; and b) roll them out before the EU has even approved them. Had we still been in the EU we would be in the same position as France, Germany etc. Look at the figures. So, no not a race but a fact and nothing to do with the NHS.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...fizer-BioNTech Apologies for the use of the Express but it is one source of many. |
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We have a new record - a truck despatched overnight had just over 300 sheets of A4 documentation to go with the load (mostly EHC related)
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Cool. We shipped tonnes of steel to Albania a couple of years ago. This required certs of origin, heat numbers, rolling dates and QC certificates, among other things. All rolled into a bar code which the customs scanned on unloading at the dockside. Same bar code was then used upon installation so we know where and when the component was installed. Maybe that software, or a derivative, could assist.
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The problem in France is not the vaccine, several available atm, but the French themselves. Nothing new, I fear. |
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And I believe, and you can find sources that confirm this, that the UK had previously decided to opt out of centralised purchasing of medicines/vaccines as a matter of political thinking prior to Brexit, as well as they had already legalised the change to how medications/vaccines are to be regulated, again prior to Brexit. But I do agree that in this instance, it would appear that the UK's government has actually pulled their fingers out, and have appeared to have done a pretty good job so far on the vaccine front. |
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