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https://www.agric.wa.gov.au/exportin...ate-travellers Presumably they have experiences like foxes, rabbits, camels and cane toads to illustrate the problems and have simply carried the worries through to flora as well as fauna. Some of the flora restrictions - Eucalyptus related for example - seem odd but presumably Western Aus is far enough removed from the rest of Aus for any inter-species threat within a native flora to still represent problems within the state. Comments about that suggestion from locals encouraged. |
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Actually consuming things before arrival at various locations can be humorous. I recall one flight from Moscow to Doha where many of the passengers consumed all their duty free, which was interesting because you can't take duty free into Qatar thus you can't buy it at the airport.
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I've no experience of these things as I said, but is not the idea of the carnet to stop you taking a car/spares into a country and dropping it off thereby evading duty? Therefore if the carnet is designed to make sure you take out what you went in with, it should make no difference if you are a team like me or a privateer.
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The point surely is that whereas it is indeed the "letter of the law", in reality the zealous enforcement of it, when it is patently obvious that there is no health risk - as the goods would have been identical a few days earlier and waved through with no thought of a check - does smack of "sour grapes", so to speak, from a jobsworth. Reports that the customs officials were commenting "welcome to Brexit" merely emphasise that. Ironically of course at least one of the people who reported having his butty nicked was a Polish resident. However, its a minor irritant and won't affect me when I drive off my Stena line crossing as I'll have eaten on the boat |
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Indeed, I'm sure that is the case - however if the trade agreement between UK and EU ensures that there is no tariff on the goods, what is the point? Other than needless bureaucracy (and a profit for any involved in rip-off carnet certification ) ? |
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As for those mentioning the "duplicate list" (something I've never heard of), have a look at the very limited goods you can use it for. |
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One piece of 'good' news is that at least those of you lucky enough to own vehicles over 50 years old and valued at over £65,000 won't need to apply for an export licence each time you take it abroad for a race meeting as there is a specific exemption
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And to reply to Gerard's comment of "And who can check if you leave your country with a top notch engine in your van and bring back a total wreck with no crank/pistons. Nobody! " The engine number would have to be quoted on the carnet and Border Force can check. The same applies to chassis numbers for complete vehicles. |
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How the history buffs then trace the real history of what chassis was used by driver X at the Biddleonian Grand Prix in '72 has always eluded me, although most teams have their own records. Feel for you guys over there trying to work it all out - it's a big change after so many years of not having Carnets etc. One word of advice if I may: if you are able to come and go with a vehicle that is exempt, it is worth carrying the basis for the exemption (Eu law for example) with you in multiple languages - avoids significant problems at odd border crossings if you can back up what you're doing with a reference to relevant laws or statutes etc. |
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With the moves of technology, I guess we'll have to have a number, bar code, QR laser graved on everything, including T-shirts and spanners. I think the FIA is working with MSUK to find a solution. |
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I would just say that yes the FIA is investigating.
The fact is that this has and will have an impact on the sport and the fault is to put on the Brexit. EU and all major countries such as Switzerland and even all the way to Turkey have built and have had agreements for circulations of goods for years, it did not happen overnight. So clarification and answer cannot either be expected overnight either as it's not as straightforward as one may think. Commercial, non-commercial, registered, non-registered, there are various aspects linked to customs but not only. The other aspect is that glimpse and bits of information spread over huge number of posts will not answer the questions. Wait and information will be clarified. |
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It has often amazed me how much reliance people put on the history of cars/engines for that very reason. Similarly, people get very excited when two cars with an interesting history emerge bearing the same chassis number. It is not impossible that both can be correct. |
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[Mod]I've copied the relevant post about Carnets to a new thread. Feel free to post any info or updates in that threa.[/Mod]
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The EU's Cross-Border Enforcement Directive no longer applies, French officials have said, so British-registered vehicles will no longer be sent fines for offences detected by roadside cameras.
Similarly, motorists with vehicles registered in the EU caught speeding in Britain will not be sent fines. Mind you I have been stopped and fined beside the road in France and Spain, if you can't or wont pay they will confiscate your vehicle. A friend of mine got pulled over in Bulgaria after crossing a double white line when slowly driving past a broken down lorry on a hill. The cops were sitting watching for any "foreign" plated vehicles and stopping and fining them on the spot but funnily enough they seemed to let locals drive away ! I think the cops shared out the takings because they refused to give any receipts out !!!! |
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I got stopped in France towing my ski boat down to Spain, OK I was doing over 90mph on one of those single carriageway roads that are straight for about 10 miles ! however the cops locked me into the back of their van and would not let me go until I gave them the money. I tried joking with them in my best Spanish but that made things worse
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After so many years, we know that French are targeted by belgian Police. Those people must have the calendar of Spa events sticked on the dashboard…*And they dont like us at all! If you pretend having no cash, they offer you a free travel to next bank. |
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When road use monitoring and pay-by-distance-travelled becomes the normal way of life for travellers speeding infringement fines will either be monetized as part of the subscription contract or eliminated by automated vehicle controls.
Either way travellers are likely to be used as a cash cow with little or no chance of avoiding payment. On the plus side that might also mean that all forms of transport can be tracked and billed so hover boards, electric scooters, bicycles, etc. all have to pay for the "right to travel". |
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