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If you look at montages or clip videos that the BTCC puts together, they include big shunts from the past which at times seems to be celebratory. Yes - I appreciate that some of the big shunts have been the most memorable moments in BTCC history, but on occasion this is for the wrong reason. As long as the BTCC entices fans with clips of accidents, then fans who want to see accidents is what they will get. |
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Let's not pretend that typically at least half the crowd at your normal BTCC event isn't waiting for the next big crash, in the same way a NASCAR crowd does.
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And for those who are wondering how close the clutch and brake pedals are aligned in a BTCC car - the pedals are deliberately mounted to be in direct alignment: |
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So now I see why he thought he had a braking problem if he got his pedals mixed up. I agree with Paul O’Neill, he needs to come out and explain and apologise for his mistake
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If the guy can't find the brake pedal then he shouldn't have a road license let alone be on a racetrack.
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[QUOTE=crmalcolm;4051485]Believe it or not - coming off the throttle and pressing the clutch pedal will feel exactly like having no brakes......
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Why do I suspect those who doubt have probably never driven a racing car in anger.
It’s incredibly easy to do. |
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oh i don’t think anyone doubts that’s the real cause. i think they’re just not very impressed…
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It’s a surprise it doesn’t happen all the time!
Seriously, when was the last time you heard of this happening? |
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The suggestion from Paul O'Neill's video is that Neate was looking at Jade's car to the side of him and didn't see the cars in front lift off. He panicked, went to hit the brake but got the wrong pedal. I stress that is still partly speculation on O'Neill's part. It's a plausible explanation, albeit one that shows a lack of spatial awareness and a lack of understanding that cars will naturally bunch up at the first corner. I think part of the issue is if that is genuinely what happened, then just put your hand up and admit you made a mistake. Don't try to pass it off with some BS about a problem with the car. |
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Many years ago as an inexperienced driver in an unfamiliar car - a dinky Pug 106 - I had to slam on the brake to avoid an idiot coming out of a side street but ended up with the car accelerating. The cause being close together pedals and big feet - I had slammed the brake to the bulkhead but taken the throttle down with it. Accident thankfully avoided due to quick reactions and the nimbleness of the little Pug! |
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Neate had to swerve to avoid the BMW that shot up the inside so he was probably all over his mirrors rather than looking forwards. As Harvey said in the first race the first corner is normally flat out from a standing start so he probably wasn't thinking about braking. Personally I think the armchair critics are being way too harsh on him considering the series but I do worry about his spatial awareness at times.
After all the touch Turkington had on Sutton could have caused just as spectacular a crash if there were more cars around and the Shedden one could have been a total train wreck very easily. If Neate had been the offending driver in either case people would still have been calling for him to be hung from the nearest tree. I liken coverage outside of the top 10 in BTCC to a reality TV show. How you are perceived is totally in the hands of what the ITV director chooses to show. The armchair critics think Neate crashes every race because they only show him when he does as they also think that Hamilton is in the gravel or having incidents every race as they also only show him when he does. |
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I doubt it and don't care what people think of that. My opinion with his track record. First it went from jammed throttle, to failed brakes to pressing the clutch instead. Just a book of excuses.
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He hasn't used the classic "the guy in front reversed into me" one yet!
In his defence, for once, he was probably in a state of shock during and after the accident, and shock can badly affect us all. Recollection of events can be become jumbled. |
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Whatever the reason behind his accident is, I don't think it's a coincidence that quite a number of times already where an accident was, Neate was there as well.
He may not be as much of an idiot on track as some of us think of him but he's just not good enough for BTCC - his pace, spatial awareness, being accident-prone and now he's going to deal with his unfortunate comment that tried to put a blame on his own team. I understand he's got a passion for motorsport and has money to do it but BTCC should be about the best touring car drivers in country so it's clearly not a place for him. |
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Its a point of view. However when the baying for blood stops surely it is plausible that in the melee of the first corner a brain on overload could mistake disengaging the clutch with a stuck throttle or brake failure. How about accepting it was just a mistake? A stupid mistake but a mistake. Telling deliberate lies it almost certainly wasn't. Just hope the team and Edwards / Geddy get a proper genuine apology.....
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