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View Poll Results: Which will be the first 2020 GP? | |||
Australia | 0 | 0% | |
Bahrain | 0 | 0% | |
Vietnam | 0 | 0% | |
China | 0 | 0% | |
Netherlands | 0 | 0% | |
Spain | 0 | 0% | |
Monaco | 0 | 0% | |
Azerbaijan | 0 | 0% | |
Canada | 2 | 5.13% | |
France | 2 | 5.13% | |
Austria | 1 | 2.56% | |
Britain | 3 | 7.69% | |
Hungary | 0 | 0% | |
Belgium | 3 | 7.69% | |
Italy | 0 | 0% | |
Singapore | 2 | 5.13% | |
Russia | 0 | 0% | |
Japan | 2 | 5.13% | |
United States | 1 | 2.56% | |
Mexico | 0 | 0% | |
Brazil | 0 | 0% | |
Abu Dhabi | 2 | 5.13% | |
Somewhere else | 0 | 0% | |
There will not be a 2020 GP | 21 | 53.85% | |
There will never be another GP | 0 | 0% | |
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18 Aug 2021, 00:29 (Ref:4067326) | #2101 | |
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Here is an interesting opinion piece on the problems facing the Prime Minister and indeed the Australian public in their pursuit of "Covid Zero".
Scott Morrison has little control over Australia's destiny or his own https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...?ocid=msedgntp "while our pursuit of the fool's errand of COVID Zero has seen us level every liberty, destroy educations and livelihoods and shut ourselves off from the world." "As noted here before, it took us 230 years, but we finally managed to perfect the prison colony. We have even invented a perverse new "Covese" lexicon where "freedoms" are not rights, but gifts bestowed by premiers and where the police complain of "illegal family gatherings". How did the old Chinese curse go? May you live in interesting times! Interesting times indeed. Last edited by wnut; 18 Aug 2021 at 00:52. |
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18 Aug 2021, 01:58 (Ref:4067331) | #2102 | |
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Racer reporting Japan is about to be confirmed as cancelled, not surprising really.
Interesting bit hidden further down in the article is the concern about the US GP "Japan has been one of the most pressing question marks on the calendar since Singapore was called off, with the race preceding the United States Grand Prix in Austin in under eight weeks’ time. In recent weeks it has appeared likely there would be two races at Circuit of the Americas if Japan was called off, but RACER has also learned there is now some uncertainty about that plan given the increase in COVID-19 restrictions in Travis County." I think that would have to be FOM deciding not to go as the state is actively against anything being cancelled. The governor, who incidentally tested positive this morning after a packed maskless indoor fundraiser, is set on legal action against any municipal governments putting in place restrictions. Travis County, home of the track as it's actually outside city limits of Austin, is a weird mix of devoutly liberal and conservative so things can be weird. The idea FOM would cancel seems outlandish BUT stranger things have happened. And they can use the hospital capacity as a justification for cancellation on safety grounds. Capacity numbers have been rumored with a wide swing from near zero to near zero for Covid, which is a big difference as they will often leave emergency beds and direct Covid patients elsewhere than trauma center ICUs. Last I checked the Rangers were still, and were the first in MLB, running full capacity at baseball games, as an option since they rarely sell out any more. I have not seen anything about restrictions but looks like the Cowboys and Texans get to fill the stadiums this season without restriction. Interesting call will be what University of Texas gets to run, they are within Austin city limits. |
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18 Aug 2021, 04:26 (Ref:4067337) | #2103 | ||
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18 Aug 2021, 08:39 (Ref:4067347) | #2104 | |
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I must have jinxed it, Japan is now officially cancelled:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/58244344 Not really too surprised, the MotoGP race has already been cancelled and considering how the great difficulty they had staging the Olympics, they couldn't take anymore chances Still a shame to lose Japan two years running, why do the rising cases always have to be in countries with great circuits or venues? |
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18 Aug 2021, 09:23 (Ref:4067351) | #2105 | |||
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Also for every other state except for NSW zero Covid is still a strong possibility as vaccination rates hit 80%+.Those of us here in NSW are likely to be a pariah state locked out of the rest of Australia for quite some time after the rest of the country opens up. |
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18 Aug 2021, 10:46 (Ref:4067371) | #2106 | |||
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A recent email exchange with my local member of state parliament made it quite clear there is no intention to legislate for the state government to abide by the National Cabinet agreement to limit lockdowns. If the goal continues to be COVID ZERO then lockdowns will continue and sadly the AGP will not. And I read, but now can't find the link ,that the AGP Corporation have sacked a significant number of staff. |
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18 Aug 2021, 11:47 (Ref:4067378) | #2107 | |||
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As for Albert Park I was posting here 14 months ago that the earliest possible event was November 2022 and I still think that is possible.Hardly breeds confidence about the GP happening in April if they are laying off staff now. |
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18 Aug 2021, 12:09 (Ref:4067384) | #2108 | ||
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18 Aug 2021, 12:20 (Ref:4067388) | #2109 | |||
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I said back in March last year no Politico will put their neck on the line for F1 before the 22 elections I would predict no GP in 22 |
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19 Aug 2021, 13:36 (Ref:4067769) | #2110 | ||
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So are Liberty going to need to go back on their policy this year of not handing out race weekends for free in order to get close to 23 rounds??
Will we end up with one or two back to backs as reported a few weeks ago either at COTA, Saudi or Abu Dhabi? Or will we end up with a couple of European rounds filling the void? If so one would hope that logic applies and southern europe will be looked at first to lessen the risk of cold/very wet conditions which disrupts running (like nurby last year)? Obviously any venues chosen will need to work with various country's covid quarantine's entry and exit rules! Could Portimao get a 2nd race, Estoril, and what about Aragon, Navarra or Jerez? Maybe even another southern france event? |
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19 Aug 2021, 14:46 (Ref:4067832) | #2111 | ||
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the uncertainty about the calendar makes things a bit more exciting? seldom used venues in 2020 made the season more enjoyable imo. a back to back in Saudi could be really interesting given that its new and the teams have little to no data on it.
or its a tight battle and a few less races may likewise add interest as it will affect how the teams approach things. less opportunity/points up for grabs, engine/part usage, and i suspect some teams woulnt mind freeing up some of that travel money and putting it back into some last minute performance upgrades? feels wrong saying this as i will for sure start complaining if another 3 week gap shows up on account of a canceled GP plus i have previously complained about the season being too long before, but for this season, given how close it is, i am leaning toward replacements rather than cancelations. i think lol! |
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19 Aug 2021, 20:19 (Ref:4067930) | #2112 | |
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In my view, all this calendar uncertainty has justified my belief that there are too many races on the calendar and that quality is more important quantity. The fact that we have already had a duplicate race in Austria and there might be a few more as well to fill an over inflated character is quite ridiculous to me
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19 Aug 2021, 22:56 (Ref:4067973) | #2113 | ||
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I'd love to see Hockenheim back
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20 Aug 2021, 01:04 (Ref:4067990) | #2114 | |
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The Japanese GP is cancelled, this is starting to look worse than last year with no second race in Texas now confirmed if they even get the first one run.
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20 Aug 2021, 12:24 (Ref:4068067) | #2117 | |
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20 Aug 2021, 23:19 (Ref:4068153) | #2118 | ||
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The problem with Texas is getting co-operation from the Authorities to maintain the bubble and preventing some nutter taking them to court over being banned from some areas for not wearing a mask.
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24 Aug 2021, 09:12 (Ref:4070094) | #2119 | |
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I see where there might be a GP at Qatar's Losail circuit in November to replace Australia, There are also doubts about the American (Brazil, Mexico & USA) races as well.
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/qa...endar/6652366/ |
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24 Aug 2021, 13:49 (Ref:4070130) | #2120 | |||
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As to the "surge in COVID-19 cases". That is not an Austin or Texas issue. That is pervasive across the entire US. Even then... I don't see the US changing protocols in any significant way. Generally speaking slowing or stopping the pandemic in the US is now about changing people's minds to get vaccinated. Which will be an uphill climb as people continue to try hard to find reasons to not do it. We are (sadly) settling into a new "normal" Richard |
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24 Aug 2021, 16:59 (Ref:4070168) | #2121 | |
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Qatar isn’t the best circuit, but it’s not the worst either. Certainly prefer it to Abu Dhabi
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24 Aug 2021, 19:12 (Ref:4070200) | #2122 | ||
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https://racer.com/2021/08/24/austin-...o-second-race/ The limitation is Austin has a large portion of the ICU beds for the area and would be the medical response center for the race. It has been SLIGHTLY better off than more rural in the state. But the state has to sign off before they can commit to hosting, but the chances they will not be told you're hosting it, make it work is VERY slim. So far it appears the sporting events have been fairly safe and not spreader events but information always gets added and response should change with new info. Now if the FIA accepts the decision and planning of Austin is to be determined, but the chances they would cancel the GP without the host track cancelling seems slim but stranger things have happened. |
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24 Aug 2021, 19:58 (Ref:4070211) | #2123 | |
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Thanks for the link. I had tried to find one that talked specifics. I could find plenty that just talked about the second race remaining a potential. But it sounds like this is more driven by FIA/F1 needs vs. potential for COTA to say "no".
And as you say... Anything can happen. I am not a betting person. While I think the US GP will happen. I would also not be shocked if something happens between now and then to derail it somehow. Richard |
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Austin would have to be more likely to happen than Mexico or Brazil I would think.Either way decisions will have to be made in the next 2-4 weeks. |
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25 Aug 2021, 09:00 (Ref:4070278) | #2125 | |
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Austin will probably not run two races, no. However I am expecting the USGP still to happen at this stage. As for Mexico and Brazil, we have to wait and see
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