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Old 25 Oct 2021, 15:26 (Ref:4079949)   #276
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someone like Jordan would push Turks on and help develop the car better
Two factors that neither Turkington or WSR need at the moment - they are both perfectly capable of pushing on and developing a car. They are better served in that capacity (IMO) through funding and revenue - which Oliphant and Jelley bring to the team more than Jordan would.
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Old 25 Oct 2021, 15:29 (Ref:4079951)   #277
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Two factors that neither Turkington or WSR need at the moment - they are both perfectly capable of pushing on and developing a car. They are better served in that capacity (IMO) through funding and revenue - which Oliphant and Jelley bring to the team more than Jordan would.
Irrelevant anyway as Jordan is very happy away from the BTCC, not least WSR of course! So it sounds like Oliphant is off then? Jelley I think is better off replaced, came to like him a lot more this season but all those poles and no wins is not the driver WSR needs, and it's not like he's at the start of his career.
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Old 25 Oct 2021, 15:30 (Ref:4079952)   #278
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they had no chance for the team's title without a strong 2nd driver
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Old 25 Oct 2021, 17:32 (Ref:4079972)   #279
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Having Jordan fighting for a title against Turkington ultimately hindered them. They could do with a “better” number 2 driver, but not someone with the ego of Jordan or another “number 1” driver. Jelley is perfect as a number 3, but they need a new number 2 really. Mat Jackson would be the dream really, as he is a number 1 level potentially, but would be a little off that with a few years away. Cammish in RWD would be another good shout, but bound to be budget limitations with both of those, so may be a case of finding a very quick young driver, which is easier said than done.
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Old 25 Oct 2021, 18:24 (Ref:4079981)   #280
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Carl Boardley owns a TBL so if he's on his way out of the BTCC thats one Bert Taylor could pick up for his new team, where's the second coming from? Assuming he wants to rubn more than just the one car for Chris Smiley?
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Old 25 Oct 2021, 18:47 (Ref:4079990)   #281
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Carl Boardley owns a TBL so if he's on his way out of the BTCC thats one Bert Taylor could pick up for his new team, where's the second coming from? Assuming he wants to rubn more than just the one car for Chris Smiley?
Carl Boardley owns two TBLs.
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Old 25 Oct 2021, 19:48 (Ref:4079996)   #282
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Carl Boardley owns two TBLs.
Yep could force Team HARD down to 3 cars, unless they can purchase another TBL from elsewhere.
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Old 26 Oct 2021, 19:13 (Ref:4080202)   #283
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Motus One have got their hands on one of the NGTC A-Classes.

(via their Instagram)
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Old 26 Oct 2021, 20:50 (Ref:4080208)   #284
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Motus One have got their hands on one of the NGTC A-Classes.
Probably for TCT. Unlikely they would use that for BTCC
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Old 26 Oct 2021, 21:08 (Ref:4080209)   #285
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Probably for TCT. Unlikely they would use that for BTCC
Agreed. The car is also used in posts alongside the tags -

Motus One’s Mercedes A-Class NGTC is ready for action!

#tct #touringcartrophy #touringcars #motorsport #testing #silverstone #sendit #racecar #racer

I also think it is used for prospective drivers to get testing mileage in an NGTC-spec car.
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Old 26 Oct 2021, 21:16 (Ref:4080210)   #286
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Probably for TCT. Unlikely they would use that for BTCC
Yeah, looks like it has had / may have outings in Britcar as well.
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Old 26 Oct 2021, 21:53 (Ref:4080216)   #287
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It's the ex-Team Hard Mercedes-Benz tested by 11 different drivers in 2020 but only raced by a couple in TCT. It'll be out in TCT if allowed next year.
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Old 26 Oct 2021, 22:12 (Ref:4080218)   #288
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That's the car raced by Toby Bearne in TCT this year. The Darron Lewis car has also just been sold.
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Old 28 Oct 2021, 07:19 (Ref:4080371)   #289
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Looks like Gow will get his way in terms of smaller teams, with the exception of the Excelr8 & TPC combo.
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Old 28 Oct 2021, 07:42 (Ref:4080376)   #290
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Looks like Gow will get his way in terms of smaller teams, with the exception of the Excelr8 & TPC combo.
Interesting - do you have a source reference?

Is this a split of the HARD./BMR/Laser camp?
HARD. itself reducing in size?
Or is Motorbase dropping from 4 cars?

If you say 'with the exception of Excelr8/TPC', then does that mean <4 Cupras and <4 Fords next season?
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Old 28 Oct 2021, 09:52 (Ref:4080391)   #291
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I do wonder if we will see teams with less drivers next season. HARD have got their own team, I don't see BMR coming back, they are only doing engineering.

But yes I can see HARD not having four cars next year and who knows about Motorbase? And what will Excelr8 do?
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Old 28 Oct 2021, 12:14 (Ref:4080412)   #292
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Interesting - do you have a source reference?

Is this a split of the HARD./BMR/Laser camp?
HARD. itself reducing in size?
Or is Motorbase dropping from 4 cars?

If you say 'with the exception of Excelr8/TPC', then does that mean <4 Cupras and <4 Fords next season?
It's mainly the Laser Tools/BMR/Team Hard split. As Boardely has 2 of the TBL's the purchaser wants both, so unless HARD can get another TBL they may have to drop to 3 cars.

Expect Excelr8 and TPC to stay the same. Motorbase too but depends on what MB do, plus sponsorship deals. Pete Osborne whilst a racer is very much a businessman.

They are paddock rumblings from various Team bosses, journos and drivers.
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Old 29 Oct 2021, 10:34 (Ref:4080539)   #293
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At least you shouldn’t be the centre of attention this winter, unless you tell us otherwise
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Well I'm sure you've seen you aren't immune to being in the rumour mix even after a stellar season. Butcher's taking your seat apparently

I'll file that away with the Cook to Team HARD rumours under the 'where did that come from'?
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Well I'm sure you've seen you aren't immune to being in the rumour mix even after a stellar season. Butcher's taking your seat apparently

I'll file that away with the Cook to Team HARD rumours under the 'where did that come from'?
Lolz…

I’m pretty safe I reckon, unless the big man sacks me?? ?

We are ready to rock and roll, let’s get our hybrid on!!

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Oh yea, I also heard Jake is taking my seat, so it’s all fun and games!
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Lolz…

I’m pretty safe I reckon, unless the big man sacks me?? ?

We are ready to rock and roll, let’s get our hybrid on!!

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Oh yea, I also heard Jake is taking my seat, so it’s all fun and games!
Oh that’s a new one about Jake Hope he doesn’t get his mate Matt to sack you so he can pinch your drive

I believe the Cook/Cammish/Moffat/Bushell to Team HARD rumours are due to one seat being subsided and all of those (bar Moffat if Laser stick around) being short on funds.

But who knows really?
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