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Old 22 Nov 2021, 06:05 (Ref:4084903)   #136
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Watching a show called 7th Gear. I've seen a few episodes in the past month. Has anybody else seen it?
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Old 22 Nov 2021, 22:15 (Ref:4085024)   #137
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Supercars spent two decades trying to tell us that the championship is as important as Bathurst, and Tony Cochrane always said preferably more important.

The last two years and particularly last Sunday have shied away from that, and the impression a casual viewer would have gotten last Sunday was that the championship is meaningless compared to Bathurst.

Team owners (and drivers towing the line) saying a championship points paying race should be cancelled to “save” cars for another race in two weeks.

Then the TV coverage switches off just after the race is called with just a token interview with the bloke who has just wrapped up the championship.

It was all very odd, interestingly Foxtel ducked away from the coverage quickly too, hardly a good look for motorsport especially as it’s the last “advertisement” prior to the Repco 1000.
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Old 23 Nov 2021, 00:39 (Ref:4085038)   #138
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Yep, feel for the fans at the track. Went home cold and miserable for nothing.

And if the turnaround to Bathurst was a concern for anyone damaging a car perhaps the 4th SMP round should not have been held. Oh but contracts. They really stuffed it. I still believe the season could have been salvaged better than the plan they went with.

Also, having a dry race on Sunday would not guarantee a grid of undamaged cars. What was a team to do 10 days before Bathurst in that scenario? They would have just gotten on with the job of being ready.
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Old 23 Nov 2021, 05:43 (Ref:4085055)   #139
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PS The Championship is meaningless compared to Bathurst.
Refunds for single day ticket holders which is good but proportional refunds for multi day ticket holders would have been nice too.
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Old 23 Nov 2021, 08:02 (Ref:4085059)   #140
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It would have been nice to see the race go full distance, it could have been Percat’s chance to reward BJR with a win.

In reality it would have been a crashfest, and with Bathurst in under two weeks along with border restrictions due to the Wuhan virus it would be a big ask for teams.

Personally I was just glad to see some car racing on TV, and look forward to Bathurst.
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Old 23 Nov 2021, 08:02 (Ref:4085060)   #141
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PS The Championship is meaningless compared to Bathurst.
Of course it is, however that’s not the line Supercars has pushed for twenty years, they’ve strived to put the championship on at least equal footing with Bathurst

Why on Sunday though would they so publically dismiss the meaning of the championship, especially on one of the live FTA races? Seems like a backward step.

I still don’t understand why Foxtel dropped off the coverage so fast? All the hours they devote over the year, and they ended the coverage after a short interview in the rain with the driver who’s just wrapped up the championship that Foxtel has followed all season.
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Old 23 Nov 2021, 13:21 (Ref:4085105)   #142
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Of course it is, however that’s not the line Supercars has pushed for twenty years, they’ve strived to put the championship on at least equal footing with Bathurst

Why on Sunday though would they so publically dismiss the meaning of the championship, especially on one of the live FTA races? Seems like a backward step.

I still don’t understand why Foxtel dropped off the coverage so fast? All the hours they devote over the year, and they ended the coverage after a short interview in the rain with the driver who’s just wrapped up the championship that Foxtel has followed all season.
Nobody cares.

Only a person not interested in motor racing in a lightweight community thinks lumping a single 1000km in with 10 meetings of 3x20min is a good idea.

It's a community lacking in substance, and they just do whatever it takes for vested interests/cliques to get by. That's why they change their tune.
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Old 24 Nov 2021, 00:23 (Ref:4085204)   #143
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Nobody cares.

Only a person not interested in motor racing in a lightweight community thinks lumping a single 1000km in with 10 meetings of 3x20min is a good idea.

It's a community lacking in substance, and they just do whatever it takes for vested interests/cliques to get by. That's why they change their tune.
A lot of words with no substance, are you the only TRUE motor sport enthusiast on this board and if so what differentiates you from all the other lightweights (your word). A full explanation of your thinking might set me right but we have not seen anything more than brief posts with mostly puzzling weird sentences. I eagerly await your expansion and thinking on this subject.
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Old 24 Nov 2021, 00:28 (Ref:4085205)   #144
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A lot of words with no substance, are you the only TRUE motor sport enthusiast on this board and if so what differentiates you from all the other lightweights (your word). A full explanation of your thinking might set me right but we have not seen anything more than brief posts with mostly puzzling weird sentences. I eagerly await your expansion and thinking on this subject.
What do you want to be explained?
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Old 24 Nov 2021, 01:30 (Ref:4085213)   #145
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Nobody cares.

Only a person not interested in motor racing in a lightweight community thinks lumping a single 1000km in with 10 meetings of 3x20min is a good idea.

It's a community lacking in substance, and they just do whatever it takes for vested interests/cliques to get by. That's why they change their tune.
I agree it would be better if Bathurst was separate from the Championship largely because there would be more chance of reverting to free driver line up choices and allowing the full timers to pair up and also I remember too many cases where teams have compromised their efforts to win the only race that matters in the pursuit of series points.
But someone should point out to you that the last year of 3x20 minute races was 2000.Last time you paid attention?
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What do you want to be explained?
Why everyone here is a lightweight motor sport fan except you.
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But someone should point out to you that the last year of 3x20 minute races was 2000.Last time you paid attention?
And was the "Star" even born then?
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Why everyone here is a lightweight motor sport fan except you.
We should probably pass the hat around for a 44-gallon drum of Mylanta now that the "two warring factions" are now one
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Old 24 Nov 2021, 05:53 (Ref:4085229)   #149
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Old 24 Nov 2021, 11:30 (Ref:4085262)   #150
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Why everyone here is a lightweight motor sport fan except you.
I did not say everyone here is a lightweight motorsport fan, even though I've pointed such fingers previously at some.

I said...

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Only a person not interested in motor racing in a lightweight community thinks lumping a single 1000km in with 10 meetings of 3x20min is a good idea.

It's a community lacking in substance, and they just do whatever it takes for vested interests/cliques to get by. That's why they change their tune.
There's nothing wrong this this.

The "person" I was referring in to particular was Tony Cochrane, and he is not someone interested in motor racing. It was his idea to lump Bathurst with a series of 10rounds x 3heats x 20mins races at the time.

It was a lazy idea that that did not enhance the ATCC as a motor racing competition, and had actually diminished Bathurst (If you count the current B1000 with the original ARDC run B1000), even though it generated commercial success. The fact no prominent Aus motorsport identity even queried the merit of it is a reflection of motor racing in Australia being a smaller culture.

Cochrane being seen as successful is a reflection of motor racing in Australia being a smaller culture. He would not succeed as an admin in any bigger, more mature racing cultures in the world (Both Indy and Nascar, UK/European and Japanese).

Australian motor racing is still affected by the legacy of this bozo. Nobody knows how to get out of it.
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