worst sounding GT1 car ever?

[cybersdorf]

Originally posted by Patrick B
I havn't heard the Panoz in person but on tv it sounds like a garbage truck on steroids...

True enough.

[The Badger]

Originally posted by pmccormick
Agree with Badger, the Panoz was/is sweet music to my ears.

However, IMO, the Mugen powered Panoz I saw at RA a few years ago was the worst sounding car I ever heard...

I thought that too when I heard it at LeMans ..... but it did grow on me and sounded differant to the test day and the race . The Mugen in the Kondo Dome sounds ok to me . Is it the same engine ?

[PascaLM]

Originally posted by cybersdorf
5l iirc, the V12 was 6l.

According to the annual LM books, the capacity of the Mercedes V8 was 6000 cc in 1998 and 5721 cc in 1999. I prefered the Mercedes sound of 1999.

The V12 Jaguar had :
5993 cc in 1986
6900 cc in 1987
7000 cc in 1988, 89 and 90
7400 cc in 1991

[bigh]

Interesting to be reminded that the Jag had swollen to 7.4L in '91. That was the year that Mazda won, and I remember Tom Walkinshaw saying after practice that they could either run at the front and run out of fuel before the end, or make the fuel last and not be competitive. They finished 2, 3 and 4 as if to prove the point. Maybe the 7.0 could have made all the difference, although I think by then Tom had just about had enough of the ACO.
And remember the XJR-14, didn't they bring two but not even bother racing them?
Fantastic livery on both cars.
H

[PascaLM]

Originally posted by bigh
Interesting to be reminded that the Jag had swollen to 7.4L in '91. That was the year that Mazda won, and I remember Tom Walkinshaw saying after practice that they could either run at the front and run out of fuel before the end, or make the fuel last and not be competitive. They finished 2, 3 and 4 as if to prove the point. Maybe the 7.0 could have made all the difference, although I think by then Tom had just about had enough of the ACO.
And remember the XJR-14, didn't they bring two but not even bother racing them?
Fantastic livery on both cars.
H

Yes, everyone was very disppointed when they knew that the XJR14 were not on the grid.
The 7400cc was chosen because of the higher weight (1000 kgs approx.). The Mazda with their Wankel engines, had a advantage with a weight of only 850 kgs.

[vinnie]

I a big panoz fan can t say that the car doesn't sound nice. v8 cars also have that great sound like the corvette and the lister. Here is a small movie. and of course the v12 from the ferrari

http://www.vandijkonline.net/movies/...lm1000_nl1.wmv

[The Badger]

I thought that the 1991 XJR-12 had a 7.3L engine ?

[cybersdorf]

Originally posted by vinnie
v8 cars also have that great sound like the corvette and the lister.

The Lister has a V12.

[Muzza]

Originally posted by Patrick B
I havn't heard the Panoz in person but on tv it sounds like a garbage truck on steroids...

Patrick B,

I can tell you that in person it is even worse!

Cheers,


Muzza

[sportscarsRULE]

Originally posted by XJR14/WSC95
The contrasting sounds of sports cars is one of the more intriguing aspects of the sport and caters for all musical tastes, two of my personal favorites are the Judd V10 and the big Mercedes V8 out of the CLR (around 6lt I think) I would have really have loved to see that motor in some other chassis. ie ORECA Dallara.

That's another thing I don't like about DPs. They're all V8s. Sure you have a few Porsche sixes(how long will they persist?), and maybe that Acura DP will show up, but otherwise it's all V8. No V12 scream, no turbo hiss, and no Rotary SCREAM.

[Carse]

what about audi r8 biturbo? and mg lola that team dyson run? there turbo charged. Theres the scream from the v10 judd. Theres loads of variety in engine sounds! v12 ferrari 550 and 575 gts, lambo now running its v12 mercialago v12 also high reving ferrari 360 v8!

[IMSA]

Without a doubt, the very worst sounding unmuffled engine is the Mazda RX7. Just plain nasty. In 1996 or 1977 Mazda sent a factory RX7 2 car team to compete in IMSA (I think, may have been TRANS AM). Everyone had their fingers in their ears the entire race when the RX7's came by. Probably one of the major reasons noise restrictions were implemented at Portland International Raceway.


IMSA

[EliseGT1]

Originally posted by cybersdorf
The Lister has a V12.

Nope, partly right.

Vinnie talks about the Lister LMP, the Lister Storm (FIA GT) has a V12. The Lister LMP sound great, I've heard it at Le Mans and LM 1000kms. It's got a Saleen-like sound, but it's louder.