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1996: 10 round ATCC, Sandown & Bathurst, AGP, Sunbelt Indy, Mobil NZ Series (16 meetings) 1986: 10 round ATCC, 6 round AEC, AGP, 5 round AMSCAR Series, plus i suppose you could include the Nissan-Mobil 500 Series. (so effectively 23 meetings, as one of the AMSCAR rounds doubled as ATCC round 1) 1987: 9 round ATCC, 5 round AMSCAR Series (included 1 ATCC round and 1 endurance race), 2 Australia endurance races, the Oran Park Silver Anniversary race (won by Steve Reed ) Sandown & Bathurst, Calder WTCC, plus you could probably include the 4 Nissan-Mobil 500 races held that year, and the AGP (effectively 20 meetings) Your are right about the age factor, there was a time when the average age was around about 40. -------- It is all well and good to say Konica's race seperatly as well, but their crowds rarely break 4 figures. Is it really a good thing that we have just one series that can attract more than 10,000 people to a race? The other thing is that no longer can a promoter just put on a race and hope for entries, you have to pay the category management before anyone will attend (though to be fair that implemented by TEGA in 1994, which effectively killed the AMSCAR Series on the spot) Last edited by racer69; 19 Apr 2004 at 12:26. |
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Talking about AMSCAR , how many of the main teams do you reckon would still support a similiar championship now? You could probally pencil in Mal Rose and Mork but I doubt that to many of the current teams would be to concerned about attending, or if they did it would be a full test session complete with shock changes mid race!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wakefield Park is trying to give a rebirth to something resembling AMSCAR with the Touring Car challenge, for everything NOT permitted under V8 Supercar rules.
There must be dozens of EB-EF-EL and VP-VR-VS Commodores not doing a lot in sheds these days... |
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That isn't really what I had in mind, a bunch of old old race cars that have no budget and running parts that havent seen a crack testing in ages all breaking down and sliding off the track,we may as well just run 2 litres
No I mean full house BA's and VY's sponsered by magor companies and crewed by proffesional staff. |
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It was in relation to an AMSCAR series
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I'd go for that. Then we could have all endurance rounds for the V8 Supercar Championship.
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I never understood the point of the AMSCAR series. What did it mean?
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dont see many historic endurance races though do we?
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Onlooker, there are already too many catergories, we do not need another one.
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So in answer to your question, and since you don't count the Wakefield series, then the number is a big fat zero. The teams you mention as being AMSCAR potential don't fit into your defintion of non-Wakefield spec cars do they? |
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The concept was revived by the ARDC in 1997 during the time AVESCO decided to isolate V8 touring cars from ARDCs big cash cow, Bathurst. |
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The main attraction of the AMSCAR series in the 70s and early 80s was that it had a better TV deal than the ATCC. At a time when TV coverage of an ATCC round depended on a promoter doing a deal with a TV station for the one particular event, the AMSCAR series had live or same-day coverage of every race on ATN-7.
Even in the years 7 were covering both with equal emthusiasm, the series still presented great TV, good prizemoney and another chance for a race, which really is the point of everything isn't it? I may be wrong, but wasn't the 3 litre series different to the AMSCAR series, at least in the late 70s? There was the Sun 7/Rothmans and later Better Brakes Touring Car Championship for the 3 litre and lower class cars, and the AMSCAR series for the big cars? That of course changed in i believe 1982, when the ARDC were pushing big cars not only for Amaroo but for the James Hardie as well. If a good TV package and decent prizemoney was offered, i don't see why teams wouldn't compete if something like that could be organised (along with contractual obligations to AVECSO sorted out). |
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Look I have no dream of it happening,just thinking aloud when someone included the AMSCAR championship in there tally of races in years gone by. The reason that I didn't go for the older cars is that neither did the AMSCAR, they were current cars fielded by current teams,Nissen was a big supporter of it. I would like top see a few more cars I guess,and some drivers with miles on the board,then open up the grid spots for Bathurst and let the cars line up around the corner again. I know it wont happen but it would be nice to see 50 touring cars head up the hill again |
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