2005 DTM car count - Page 5

toot toot · 15 Dec 2004, 09:50 (Ref:1179828)

Quote:

Originally Posted by flor

seems like canadian Bruno Spengler has a seat in a 04 merc at team Mücke

Does he ave any experience in tintops because he was not particulally impressive in F3 Euroseries this season? If not what makes them think he'll shine in a DTM '04 car?

Thommy · 15 Dec 2004, 12:01 (Ref:1179920)

TWR and Touringcars, remember the old stories of the Jaguar and Rover... Would be interesting and funny...*hehehe*

gwyllion · 15 Dec 2004, 12:27 (Ref:1179940)

I do not see this happening. Ford first closes the Jaguar factory in Coventry (firing more than 1000 people) and sells the Jaguar F1 team. In the mean time other autosport project get budget cuts (e.g. Ford WRC team). And now they decide to enter DTM, which is rather expensive?

gttouring · 15 Dec 2004, 12:27 (Ref:1179941)

all this chat here and ther over number 4
why not cadillac? the car is all built

flor · 15 Dec 2004, 12:50 (Ref:1179962)

im not sure if they even sell cadillacs in germany

flor · 15 Dec 2004, 12:51 (Ref:1179965)

all i know about his tin top experience is he and some other youngsters tested the car a month or 2 ago

Kicking-back · 15 Dec 2004, 13:20 (Ref:1179992)

And Cadillac is GM-owned, so would not go head to head with Opel.

The new manufacturer is Rover.

gwyllion · 15 Dec 2004, 13:20 (Ref:1179993)

Autosport.com confirms MG Rover will be the 4th manufacturer in DTM next year

gwyllion · 15 Dec 2004, 13:22 (Ref:1179995)

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MG Rover to race in the DTM

British manufacturer MG Rover is set to race in next year's DTM touring car series. After championship organiser ITR confirmed earlier this week that a fourth manufacturer will join Mercedes, Audi and Opel, Autosport can reveal that MG plans to run four cars in next year's series.

source: www.autosport.com

I guess you can see Dumbreck after all in DTM next year

JMeissner · 15 Dec 2004, 15:31 (Ref:1180208)

I merged this thread with the Jaguar speculations to join. We can't have three different threads about the DTM speculations of next year.

**FIRE** · 15 Dec 2004, 17:29 (Ref:1180321)

Quote:

Originally Posted by gttouring

all this chat here and ther over number 4
why not cadillac? the car is all built

The Cadillac CTS-V isn't in DTM specifications.

**FIRE** · 15 Dec 2004, 17:31 (Ref:1180322)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthonychung

If Jaguar with TWR to join DTM, it is a competitive team just like AMG with Benz.

TWR is bankrupt.

John Winter · 15 Dec 2004, 22:57 (Ref:1180621)

Tom Walkinshaw joined Holden for 2005, didn't he?

**FIRE** · 16 Dec 2004, 17:26 (Ref:1181229)

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Winter

Tom Walkinshaw joined Holden for 2005, didn't he?

That's correct.

cybersdorf · 16 Dec 2004, 19:48 (Ref:1181333)

This is remarkable: the cost of development will be covered by the DTM organising body ITR. Merc is desperate to keep its series going...

flor · 17 Dec 2004, 15:14 (Ref:1181926)

dtm.de reports that the new vectra had its rollout

**FIRE** · 17 Dec 2004, 19:34 (Ref:1182069)

Quote:

Originally Posted by flor

dtm.de reports that the new vectra had its rollout

Some pics

**FIRE** · 22 Dec 2004, 17:10 (Ref:1186047)

Albers will be announced as Minardi driver tomorrow.

John Winter · 22 Dec 2004, 21:37 (Ref:1186268)

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybersdorf

This is remarkable: the cost of development will be covered by the DTM organising body ITR. Merc is desperate to keep its series going...

This is absolute horse****! First of all: ITR is not Mercedes! ITR is Mercedes, Audi and Opel, and if MG will enter, they will also be part of the ITR.

Secondly: The ITR has not funded anything. The only thing they did is helping to find sponsors who would help to fund the project.

kmchow · 23 Dec 2004, 01:54 (Ref:1186421)

So Audi and Opel are okay with the fact they're actually funding a 4th manufacturer for '05?

John Winter · 23 Dec 2004, 07:56 (Ref:1186502)

Which part of "The ITR has NOT funded anything" don't you understand?

flor · 21 Jan 2005, 12:52 (Ref:1206339)

Holzer is out of DTM, all Opels will be run by Phoenix and OPC. Team Holzer will do Euro f3, German F3 and FBMW instead.

**FIRE** · 21 Jan 2005, 17:18 (Ref:1206551)

Quote:

Originally Posted by flor

Holzer is out of DTM, all Opels will be run by Phoenix and OPC. Team Holzer will do Euro f3, German F3 and FBMW instead.

Hope Holzer will do WTCC or FIA GT in 2006.

kmchow · 22 Jan 2005, 07:57 (Ref:1206931)

Did Holzer get dropped by Opel? Not enough funding?

flor · 22 Jan 2005, 08:45 (Ref:1206949)

apparently the contract ran out at the end of 2004, still suprising since the whole OPC center is located at Holzer

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