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Old 13 Feb 2008, 20:52 (Ref:2128213)   #201
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CCWS is with the merger dead anyway.....why not try to make it work.
What is it worth now 1 dollar? let it go bankrupt and buy it for 1dollar from KK....

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Old 13 Feb 2008, 21:22 (Ref:2128231)   #202
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The main thing is it seems we are soon going to have one series, howsoever it manifests itself (be it merger or simply CC death).

This is undoubtedly a much needed occurence.

In some ways perhaps simply CC death is better than a merger of some form, as I fear all that will happen is we will have this whole "CC vs IRL" argument (sorry, debate with no end) put into a new wrapper.

If the upshot of all this is indeed one series, can we all agree, regardless of the form it takes, that it is an improvement on what we have now?

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Old 13 Feb 2008, 21:43 (Ref:2128250)   #203
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Probably not, no!

I can't wait for one single series, however it comes about.
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Old 13 Feb 2008, 21:45 (Ref:2128253)   #204
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CCWS is with the merger dead anyway.....why not try to make it work.
Because that would be daft. Very, very daft indeed. How could it possibly work? What benefit would it be except keep the split going longer?
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Old 13 Feb 2008, 23:39 (Ref:2128348)   #205
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I agree completely with Tony. The merge must be done immediately. And i also think that the merge announcement will coming very soon. The actual situation must end now. One more year for CCWS, will be "une année de trop".
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 00:48 (Ref:2128370)   #206
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Probably not, no!

I can't wait for one single series, however it comes about.

Whatever eggs are left need to be in this basket.

In response to MS, Pre split if you said "racing" most Americans would say: "Huh?" By the late '80s, NASCAR was busily transforming itself from a regional curiosity to a more "national" identity. To most Americans if you say "the split" the first thing they will think of is a move they saw on "Dancing with the Stars" or a celebrity breakup...

But that is all beside the point, which is: Just fix it. We get one series and we can work out the rules as we go.
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 00:56 (Ref:2128378)   #207
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Surely this season is now going to be one of transition whatever format it takes. Either CCWS will be picking over the bones with 14 car grids or its teams will be getting used to the Dallara (incidentally they don't look ugly or sound horrid to me watching on TV - they look and sound like race cars and no more nor less so than the DP01 - F1 cars aren't exactly things of beauty either but they do the job of going darn fast pretty well).
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 00:58 (Ref:2128381)   #208
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As far as the "looks" of the car go, it has to be on the grid before being pretty becomes important.
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 04:17 (Ref:2128445)   #209
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Yeah at this point who cares what the damn cars are going to look like. The important thing is that there are cars racing!
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 07:07 (Ref:2128481)   #210
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What that tells me is that you were nowhere around 13-14 years ago when Indycar shared the throne with Nascar.

Today almost every american equates Racing=Nascar. It didn't used to be that way.
Apparently those big brains which sentenced that "there's nothing sacred about Indy" were not that right...
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 07:44 (Ref:2128491)   #211
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..and what if the CCWS doesn't merge this season, but defers any merger until 2009.

It won't be champcar with the lower car count.
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 13:58 (Ref:2128725)   #212
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Meanwhile, Kalkhoven, contacted at his California home, insisted the bankruptcy reports were "absolutely wrong."

"I have no idea where this came from," he said.
Would someone get him a PR agent, and get this crap sorted out.
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 14:20 (Ref:2128744)   #213
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Would someone get him a PR agent.....
Sorry he was made redundant
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 14:58 (Ref:2128761)   #214
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So was it all just Robin's imagination in overdrive?

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...strations//P1/

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Old 14 Feb 2008, 15:08 (Ref:2128767)   #215
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Walker's still talking about the IRL but he doesn't seem to know much more than the rest of us.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../1052/SPORTS01
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 15:30 (Ref:2128778)   #216
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According to italiaracing (in english)

http://italiaracing.net/notizia.asp?id=17993&cat=3

even PKV, kk's team, is on his way to IRL
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 18:19 (Ref:2128926)   #217
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so why can't they say the merge is on? or just give in..? it won't hurt only the sale of CC assets...
and some of those will go to superleague formula and others to BOSS and some to some vintge racers...
the tracks- keep them and lease to TG and rake it in..
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I'd guess italiaracing is a day behind in the Robin Miller Rumour Mill
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Old 14 Feb 2008, 18:23 (Ref:2128931)   #219
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SLF? They need to get in bed with an Andrexball team, maybe the New England Revolution could join SuperLeague :P
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Merger not-so imminent?

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Old 19 Feb 2008, 11:57 (Ref:2132456)   #221
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According to Robin Miller on SpeedTV.com the merger is done for '08! Finally common sense has prevailed.

I can't wait for the season to start.
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Old 19 Feb 2008, 12:23 (Ref:2132464)   #222
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Old 19 Feb 2008, 13:16 (Ref:2132492)   #224
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Here's Robin's latest....apparently the details have been worked out......

http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...car-deal-done/
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Absolutely fantastic news!

(Don't like the 'Australia is being heavily considered' bit though... )
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