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Old 5 Sep 2008, 11:40 (Ref:2282232)   #1
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1. Maldonado Piquet Sports 1:57.055 12
2. Pantano Racing Engineering 1:57.103 + 0.048 10
3. Petrov Barwa International Campos 1:57.219 + 0.164 11
4. Buemi Trust Team Arden 1:57.333 + 0.278 12
5. Valsecchi Durango 1:57.537 + 0.482 13
6. Chandhok iSport International 1:57.558 + 0.503 11
7. Zuber Piquet Sports 1:57.576 + 0.521 12
8. Soucek Super Nova Racing 1:57.644 + 0.589 12
9. Kobayashi Dams 1:57.661 + 0.606 11
10. D'Ambrosio Dams 1:57.681 + 0.626 13
11. Parente Super Nova Racing 1:57.760 + 0.705 12
12. Rodriguez FMS International 1:57.803 + 0.748 14
13. Yamamoto ART Grand Prix 1:57.874 + 0.819 9
14. Di Grassi Barwa International Campos 1:57.905 + 0.850 11
15. Senna iSport International 1:57.998 + 0.943 11
16. Grosjean ART Grand Prix 1:58.265 + 1.210 10
17. Filippi Trust Team Arden 1:58.420 + 1.365 12
18. Tung Trident Racing 1:58.476 + 1.421 12
19. Nunes DPR 1:58.494 + 1.439 13
20. Conway Trident Racing 1:58.611 + 1.556 13
21. Asmer FMS International 1:58.960 + 1.905 11
22. Valerio Durango 1:59.127 + 2.072 12
23. Villa Racing Engineering 1:59.146 + 2.091 10
24. Valles BCN Competicion 1:59.148 + 2.093 13
25. Herck DPR 1:59.416 + 2.361 11
26. Iaconelli BCN Competicion 1:59.487 + 2.432 13
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 16:48 (Ref:2282395)   #2
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Quaifying results. Chandhok will be starting 11th due to contact with Petov last time out so Senna gets pole and the the two points that come with it.

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1. Chandhok iSport International 2:15.489 11
2. Senna iSport International 2:15.550 + 0.061 11
3. Parente Super Nova Racing 2:16.100 + 0.611 11
4. Grosjean ART Grand Prix 2:16.280 + 0.791 12
5. Pantano Racing Engineering 2:16.291 + 0.802 9
6. Zuber Piquet Sports 2:16.370 + 0.881 9
7. Buemi Trust Team Arden 2:16.786 + 1.297 11
8. Conway Trident Racing 2:16.853 + 1.364 12
9. Soucek Super Nova Racing 2:16.958 + 1.469 11
10. Maldonado Piquet Sports 2:17.310 + 1.821 4
11. Petrov Barwa Campos Team 2:17.374 + 1.885 7
12. Valerio Durango 2:17.587 + 2.098 13
13. Valsecchi Durango 2:17.757 + 2.268 13
14. Nunes DPR 2:17.857 + 2.368 13
15. Asmer FMS International 2:17.969 + 2.480 13
16. Valles BCN Competicion 2:18.097 + 2.608 11
17. Rodriguez FMS International 2:18.170 + 2.681 11
18. Herck DPR 2:18.206 + 2.717 12
19. Tung Trident Racing 2:18.836 + 3.347 12
20. Filippi Trust Team Arden 2:19.174 + 3.685 6
21. D'ambrosio Dams 2:19.394 + 3.905 9
22. Villa Racing Engineering 2:21.482 + 5.993 12
23. Iaconelli BCN Competicion 2:22.089 + 6.600 12
24. Yamamoto ART Grand Prix 2:22.764 + 7.275 5
25. Kobayashi Dams 2:24.020 + 8.531 3

Outside 107%

Di Grassi Barwa Campos Team 2:30.459 + 14.970 2
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 18:42 (Ref:2282459)   #3
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Chandhok has very honestly admitted that he set his 'pole position' when there were yellow flags out, so may yet face further sanctions. Before that he was only 12th and felt he had to go for a time due to the 10-place grid drop. Buemi has also been called before the Stewards.
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 19:05 (Ref:2282470)   #4
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5 place grid penalty for Chandhok and Buemi for ignoring the yellow flags on the final lap.
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 19:39 (Ref:2282486)   #5
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chandhok shouldn't have ignored the flags - considering his motivations i don't believe he should be allowed to start the race. saying you didn't see them is one thing, saying you deliberately ignored them is another.
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 20:22 (Ref:2282513)   #6
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It certainly didn't allow him much of a leg to stand on when he met the Stewards.

The usual argument in such circumstances is that as the track was getting quicker all the time, he would still have been quicker through the yellow flag sectors even if he had eased off a little.
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Old 6 Sep 2008, 10:50 (Ref:2282769)   #7
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So what's the deal with Di is he a Grassi a DNS then? Why was he that slow, did he stack it??

Typical i originally picked Conway in predictions then decided to replace him!!

Good line up though I think, Senna must win. Surprised Pastor in 10th after recent form but bet he'll come through in the race!
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Old 6 Sep 2008, 14:04 (Ref:2282854)   #8
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Old 6 Sep 2008, 14:15 (Ref:2282861)   #9
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http://www.justin.tv/impreq If you know a bit Polish :P Couldn't find any other channel on the p2p
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Old 6 Sep 2008, 14:32 (Ref:2282866)   #11
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that was some crash for valsecchi
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Old 6 Sep 2008, 15:05 (Ref:2282871)   #12
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I thought Senna would take his drive-through as soon as the Safety Car came in, but I suppose iSport know best.

I hoped Parente would pick up the win, but it was not to be. Grosjean drove a very mature race.

Very strange afternoon for Giorgio Pantano.
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I reckon, hard hit! Not a good day for Durango... nor Senna nor Pantano, weird!
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Old 6 Sep 2008, 15:23 (Ref:2282878)   #14
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Pantano had to take the risk for that 8th spot, he had nothing to lose since Senna wouldn't score anyway and if he had managed to pull it off, he could effectively kill off the championship before Monza. But risks do not always work.
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Old 6 Sep 2008, 15:50 (Ref:2282887)   #15
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Maldonado tried two times to pass his teammate, but did it at the wrong manner... Fortunately he restored the position to Zuber to avoid penalization.
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didnt need to take the risk at all, was already in 8th which gives pole for tomorrow. he simply stuffed up and couldn't stop it in time, feel really sorry for Di Grassi.
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Old 6 Sep 2008, 17:00 (Ref:2282928)   #17
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I'm very sorry for Di Grassi too. Giorgio took an unnecesary risk and stomped the Brazilian out of the race when the race was about to conclude.
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Anybody know why Senna got penalized for a facsimile of the Massa pit box release ? Different rules for GP2 or different rules for Ferrari ?
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Old 6 Sep 2008, 17:29 (Ref:2282941)   #19
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Different rules for GP2.
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I imagine the unsafe release rule is the same and IMO the penalty imposed on Massa was wrong but that's another subject...for me the main difference is that the GP2 pitlane is much more congested and Senna came very very close to taking out another team's mechanic. I can't see that the Stewards had much choice in this case (of course it helps that he wasn't driving an all red car of course )
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Different rules for GP2? It seems strange that in the championship where there are more mechanics in the pitlane, more powerful cars and refuelling, the penalties for unsafe pit release aren't as severe as in GP2. I absolutely agree with the Senna penalty; I just think Massa's was too light and inconsistency is not good for the credibility of the FIA.

I thought it was a little odd that the race started behind the safety car. I understand the conditions changed at the last minute, but I feel the drivers could have handled it. I also wondered about some of Senna's tactics at the restarts, backing the field up to such an extreme.

Pantano's drive was not that of the most experienced man in the field. As has already been mentioned, he could have put himself in a very strong position to finish the championship if he hadn't spun at La Source.

Good that Valsecchi has suffered no major injuries, it was a big accident.

Grosjean's most mature performance so far this season. Looking forward to tomorrow's race.

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Pantano disqualified from the event for the accident with di Grassi and for overtaking behind the safety car.

Zuber disqualified for unauthorised repairs.
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didnt need to take the risk at all, was already in 8th which gives pole for tomorrow. he simply stuffed up and couldn't stop it in time, feel really sorry for Di Grassi.
Wrong, he was 10th hence the need to get past Rodriguez as quickly as possible in order to have a chance at overtaking di Grassi
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Wrong, he was 10th hence the need to get past Rodriguez as quickly as possible in order to have a chance at overtaking di Grassi
You tend not to overtake anyone by driving into them amidships . Anyway, it's academic now in view of Jackman's information.
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Old 6 Sep 2008, 20:36 (Ref:2283034)   #25
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I suppose that was not his plan. Also I find the penalty totally unexplainable, grid penalties were handed out for such things, now suddenly it is a DQ. Why don't they exclude Pantano from Monza as well and get it done with?

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