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Old 5 Sep 2008, 19:49 (Ref:2282490)   #1
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New Donington Circuit Plans Published

The Donington Park website now has plans of the proposed new layout.

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Old 5 Sep 2008, 19:53 (Ref:2282494)   #2
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one has to ask the question though: what about the local roads?

Plans for the circuit though don't look to bad.
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 20:12 (Ref:2282505)   #3
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Ouch - run down to Melbourne for first corner could make things interesting!
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 21:07 (Ref:2282529)   #4
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Fairly impressive really, just hope they dont forget about us marshals though and provide a better level of service than P3 offers right now!
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 21:12 (Ref:2282532)   #5
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Ouch - run down to Melbourne for first corner could make things interesting!
Looking at the revised circuit map, I get the impression that the circuit is ''anti-clockwise''. If you look closely, there is an arrow pointing towards Macleans, from the pit lane exit, making Coppice the first corner off the start.
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 21:15 (Ref:2282536)   #6
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yeh i saw that but i doubt very much that they will run it that way round...me thinks it will stay the same....cant see teh owners wanting to loose the view of f1 cars sweeping down craner curves....makes no sense!
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 21:19 (Ref:2282538)   #7
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Yes I agree with you, Clockwise is the ONLY way to run Donington, but you never know!
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 21:34 (Ref:2282546)   #8
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the corner numbers say that Melbourne is the first corner

and the pit exit and entry also suggest that
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 21:39 (Ref:2282551)   #9
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Looking at the revised circuit map, I get the impression that the circuit is ''anti-clockwise''. If you look closely, there is an arrow pointing towards Macleans, from the pit lane exit, making Coppice the first corner off the start.
But Mcleans is Turn 13 whereas Coppice is Turn 14!
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 21:47 (Ref:2282557)   #10
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Why have they put the pits opposite the exhibition centre? Where are all the speccies going to go?!
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 22:00 (Ref:2282563)   #11
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Why have they put the pits opposite the exhibition centre? Where are all the speccies going to go?!
The new pit complex WAS ORIGINALLY going there, when the previous ''landlords'' drew up thier plans for a revised Donington some years ago.
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 22:01 (Ref:2282564)   #12
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they better start building then other wise they will miss the 2010 gp
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 22:02 (Ref:2282565)   #13
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No arrow anywhere on the track plan, even at 200% magnification.
And the Nurburgring GP course has the same layout, of a long start straight followed by a hairpin. AFAIK that doesn't cause any problems for the marshals - it may for the drivers!
The really interesting part will be the new loop from old Goddards to the beginning of the old start/finish straight. It will be steeply down then up hill again.

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I've just taken a good look at these plans.

What a pile of ****. If this gets built, I am not going to Donington ever again. There is absoultely no hope of good racing there with this new layout.
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 22:17 (Ref:2282572)   #15
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Doesn't look too bad to me.
Though presumably, there will be no spectating on the inside of the Craner Curves as this will all be run off area?
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 22:20 (Ref:2282573)   #16
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Looking at the revised circuit map, I get the impression that the circuit is ''anti-clockwise''. If you look closely, there is an arrow pointing towards Macleans, from the pit lane exit, making Coppice the first corner off the start.
I can't see the arrow you're referring too. There is a bit just to the left of the med-centre that kinda looks a bit arrow like, especially when not zoomed in much, but I think that's just a building. Plus, if you look at the design of the run-offs at Melbourne, and the new corner (where it says "T3"), they are quite clearly clockwise in design. I sincerely doubt that they will change direction.

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Old 5 Sep 2008, 22:25 (Ref:2282574)   #17
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I've just taken a good look at these plans.

What a pile of ****. If this gets built, I am not going to Donington ever again. There is absoultely no hope of good racing there with this new layout.
i dont see anything wrong with them. they can still use the same layout as there today.
what makes u say theres no hope of good racing?
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Old 5 Sep 2008, 22:34 (Ref:2282576)   #18
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I can't see the arrow you're referring too.
I saw it as clear as day. Then I moved my mouse ...
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i dont see anything wrong with them. they can still use the same layout as there today.
what makes u say theres no hope of good racing?
The Architect's name alone rings alarm bells. Not much of the original circuit layout will survive. even the final chicane looks to be altered somewhat - and what is left will probably disappear beneath huge car park sized run off areas. The infield is a complete mess. There's fewer overtaking opportunities than there were before, and it's designed by Tilke - so it will only ever be good for overgrown computer games.

It's going to be Hockenheim all over again. Once greatness, now a shadow of it's former self.
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Not much of the original circuit layout will survive. even the final chicane looks to be altered somewhat - and what is left will probably disappear beneath huge car park sized run off areas.
Looks like most of the circuit remains intact to me. Okay, some bits have been subtly altered, notably the two straights have become a little curved, but really it's a case of the new bit added is the only substantial change.

TBH, I don't really mind run-offs that much - I'd much rather see a car that runs a little wide get back and continue racing*, than get beached in the gravel.

* this is, after all, why we are all here, is it not (with due deference to my sig).
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looks alright but they had better build big fences after the runoff on the infield as there is one big drop down to the craners. ging to be a bit tight space wise for the main paddock with all the stuff F1 teams bring, would guess that support racers will still use the old paddocks 2&3
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looks alright but they had better build big fences after the runoff on the infield as there is one big drop down to the craners. ging to be a bit tight space wise for the main paddock with all the stuff F1 teams bring, would guess that support racers will still use the old paddocks 2&3
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Looks good to me and obviously a clockwise circuit
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Circuit looks ok, but.....
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one has to ask the question though: what about the local roads?
exactly.
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Old 6 Sep 2008, 16:35 (Ref:2282914)   #25
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Why have they put the pits opposite the exhibition centre? Where are all the speccies going to go?!
Does F1 really care about speccies, look at Valencia and Monaco, very poor viewing at those circuits. Anybody that thinks that they will get to the infield as well will have a shock as Bernie will have that as a protected area for his circus and for his rich corporate guests.

With Tilke designing the circuit it will be sterilised beyond recognition, spectators will end up as far from the circuit as is the case at Silverstone.

Oh well RIP Donington and now perhaps Silverstone can develop the circuit with spectators in mind.
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