Talent in F1

economy_waffle · 3 Sep 2001, 19:53 (Ref:140751)

following on from my reply in Fizzie vs Trulli, do you think that the next wave of talent has hit? because in recent years, its been at the start of the decade or the late decade when suddenly a new wave of talent comes in today we have:

Raikonnen
Heidfeld
Fizzie
Trulli
montoya
schumacher (ralf)
PDLR
Possibly Mcnish
Alonso

does anyone agree with me?

Ralf's Girl · 3 Sep 2001, 20:05 (Ref:140767)

I agree with all but McNish. He's hardly in the new generation of talent - he won't have an awfully long time in F1 (isn't he getting to his mid-30s now?) and while he's there Toyota will be nowhere near the front. I can't see him ever battling it out with the likes of Ralf, JPM, Kimi et al.

paulzinho · 3 Sep 2001, 20:28 (Ref:140780)

I think its highly unlikely that we'll see an era like the turbo era in terms of driver talent because they don't require the talent needed back then. I'm talking about Senna Prost Piquet Lauda (13 WDC there) and Mansell (another WDC). Also the 'lesser drivers were also able to win races then Laffite, Patrese, Alboreto, Tambay.

Todays crop are promising but I get the feeling that we're going to be disappointed by them. I hope i'm wrong but i don't know why.

Guy Goddard · 3 Sep 2001, 20:42 (Ref:140789)

Tend to agree with you, F1 today is more a political movement with sponsership playing too greater part.

paulzinho · 3 Sep 2001, 20:47 (Ref:140795)

I think the limit on the number of teams should be scrapped too because there are becoming fewer drives available once sponsorship takes hold. Remember the days of 26 car fields!!

*dreams of what once was*

LucaBadoer · 3 Sep 2001, 20:49 (Ref:140800)

Add Badoer to that list. I mean, look at the way he won the 1992 F3000 Championship...

Jeanburrasca81 · 3 Sep 2001, 21:00 (Ref:140808)

Yes Badoer Fan, you're right. In my eyes it's more than a shame that Ferrari didn't provide him a drive in the lasr years. But he will drive soon again in the races, finally.

Best regards,

Julian

TimD · 3 Sep 2001, 21:33 (Ref:140835)

Quote:

Originally posted by paulzinho
Remember the days of 26 car fields!!

*dreams of what once was*

...and with another 10 cars trying to pre-qualify the day before....

Nicholas · 4 Sep 2001, 06:16 (Ref:140992)

Quote:

Originally posted by Ralf's Girl
while he's there Toyota will be nowhere near the front. I can't see him ever battling it out with the likes of Ralf, JPM, Kimi et al.

But I can't really say that Fernando Alonso is battling it out with the best, and he's still regarded as quite a talented driver like Marc Gene.

Ralf's Girl · 4 Sep 2001, 20:02 (Ref:141311)

But in future I'm sure Alonso will be up there winning races. By that time McNish will be in his late 30s, and I can't see him ever winning anything in F1.

conemoy_fawlef · 4 Sep 2001, 20:05 (Ref:141315)

Quote:

Originally posted by Ralf's Girl
But in future I'm sure Alonso will be up there winning races. By that time McNish will be in his late 30s, and I can't see him ever winning anything in F1.

you never know, personally i doint think that mcnish will make waves. i think its too little too late but i agree that alonso will be up there soon - very soon!!!

Speedworx · 4 Sep 2001, 20:19 (Ref:141330)

Agree all but Montoya, who has no talent at all.

K.Raikonnen
N.Heidfeld
G.Fisichella
J.Trulli
J.Button
R.Schumacher
P.de la Rosa
A.McNish
F.Alonso
E.Bernoldi
L.Burti

We have also had:

R.Zonta
M.Gene

Ralf's Girl · 4 Sep 2001, 20:28 (Ref:141336)

Quote:

Originally posted by hakkiman
Agree all but Montoya, who has no talent at all.

Eeeeeeeeeek!!! Can of worms, can of worms...

Speedworx · 4 Sep 2001, 21:03 (Ref:141368)

Very funny. I have never been a Montoya fan and I never will be. Its as simple as that. I have far better drivers to focus my attention on.

EERO · 4 Sep 2001, 21:28 (Ref:141395)

...but "no talent"?

Maybe not your cup of tea, but the guy IS talented.

R · 4 Sep 2001, 21:58 (Ref:141422)

Hakkiman, you must have been reading too many of AGGY's posts!

paulzinho · 4 Sep 2001, 22:07 (Ref:141426)

Quote:

Originally posted by TimD

...and with another 10 cars trying to pre-qualify the day before....

Hmmmm... pre qualifying.... competitive fields.... racing..... fast cars..... good DRIVERS..... slicks......

Come to think of it why are we still watching it?

I'm an addict and i can't see why.... oh yes it still excites me...

jiggly_puff · 5 Sep 2001, 15:08 (Ref:141857)

ermmmm put button on that original list!

Speedworx · 5 Sep 2001, 17:22 (Ref:141950)

Montoya has no talent. He always drives the best car. Give him a bad car and he is sucks. I think its time people got their head out of the clouds and saw that Kimi, Button and Alonso have more talent.

BBKing · 5 Sep 2001, 17:27 (Ref:141953)

Quote:

Originally posted by hakkiman
Montoya has no talent. He always drives the best car. Give him a bad car and he is sucks. I think its time people got their head out of the clouds and saw that Kimi, Button and Alonso have more talent.

You meant to say Hakkinen, didn't you?....LOL

One year ago I guess you were among those who believed Button was going to win the championship this year...LOL

Time...Time. Why can't people wait?...LOL

R · 5 Sep 2001, 20:04 (Ref:142043)

That's right, BBKing, time will tell, and prove us Montoya-supporters right!

Speed · 5 Sep 2001, 21:19 (Ref:142086)

Quote:

Originally posted by hakkiman
Agree all but Montoya, who has no talent at all.

nice joke...

facco · 5 Sep 2001, 21:29 (Ref:142095)

Quote:

Originally posted by hakkiman
Montoya has no talent. He always drives the best car. Give him a bad car and he is sucks... Button and Alonso have more talent.

If so, where was Button while Fissi was at the podium?

f1grandprixshop · 5 Sep 2001, 23:23 (Ref:142168)

Quote:

Originally posted by hakkiman
Montoya has no talent. He always drives the best car. Give him a bad car and he is sucks.

Does that mean I can have a seat at WilliamsF1 too??? Sir Frank, I don't have talent!!

hehe j/k

Cheers!!

Enjoy F1!

Jeanburrasca81 · 5 Sep 2001, 23:32 (Ref:142172)

Actually Montoya didn't really prove me his talent for F1 yet..please dont kill me for this opinion, I think he's a great driver, but we will see what he can do next season. In fact with this Williams many people can do some good overtaking and stuff.
I want to know if it's talent or only a great heart...

Best regards,

Julian

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