Nissan 200sx S14 FIA homologation papers/documents

[VinceS14]

Hello,

I have been looking for these papers/documents for a few days now. I want to race my S14 in rally. I could only find the hom. No. on the FIA website (C2 16, C2 17, C2 18, C2 19). These codes have only the following information: Make: NIssan, Date :1993, and in the description: SR20DE(1998cc). I am not sure which of these are for my car (if any..) or where I could get the necessary papers documents.

Do any of you have any suggestion?
Thank you

PS: i am from Hungary

[VinceS14]

nothing ? :/

[MGDavid]

I have a list of FIA homologations - which may not be complete.
The only Nissan 200 on it is the RVS12, details follow:

H'gation # Group Model cc date
5318 A Nissan 200 SX RVS12 2960 01/01/1987

[VinceS14]

Originally Posted by MGDavid

I have a list of FIA homologations - which may not be complete.
The only Nissan 200 on it is the RVS12, details follow:

H'gation # Group Model cc date
5318 A Nissan 200 SX RVS12 2960 01/01/1987

Yes I also found a list, on the australian motorspport association's site, there was no s14 on it. But I found another list, with 4 lines including SR20 engines homologated in 1993. it should be for S13 although, as they only started to make s14 from '95. But I saw an S14 rally car on youtube, so there must be a homologation paper for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRH9wxa4OvQ

[VinceS14]

?

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by VinceS14

........ But I saw an S14 rally car on youtube, so there must be a homologation paper for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRH9wxa4OvQ

not necessarily, it depends on the level and the regs for the specific event, surely? You can prep virtually anything as a rally or race car and enter club level events.

[BertMk2]

Originally Posted by MGDavid

not necessarily, it depends on the level and the regs for the specific event, surely? You can prep virtually anything as a rally or race car and enter club level events.

That's very true - you only need the homologation papers if the events you're planning on entering require the car to be homologated. There are plenty of club level (and national) events where any suitably modified car can be used - for example in the uk you build a car to the MSA regs and get a scrutineer to take a look and assuming all is ok with the build then you get a competition logbook for the car. As long as the car complies with the regs in the MSA rule book you can get pretty much anything cleared for use. Do your local rules require a homologated model to be used?

[Tel 911S]

A bit confusing , but it might be the Nissan Sylvia RS which you are looking for and not the SX200.
I do not have a copy of them , but they are listed as A5247.

[VinceS14]

Originally Posted by BertMk2

That's very true - you only need the homologation papers if the events you're planning on entering require the car to be homologated. There are plenty of club level (and national) events where any suitably modified car can be used - for example in the uk you build a car to the MSA regs and get a scrutineer to take a look and assuming all is ok with the build then you get a competition logbook for the car. As long as the car complies with the regs in the MSA rule book you can get pretty much anything cleared for use. Do your local rules require a homologated model to be used?

I want to be racing the car in our national championship. I know that in our "rally tour" championship almost any car can compete. But in the national I think I will need some homologation papers. I would fit into our grS (group S), which is a newer version of the grH (group H, hobby group). The description says, in group S can compete cars with expired homologation.

[VinceS14]

Originally Posted by Tel 911S

A bit confusing , but it might be the Nissan Sylvia RS which you are looking for and not the SX200.
I do not have a copy of them , but they are listed as A5247.

Isn't that the s12 wrc?

And I found this blueprint, showing all the sizes of the car, but I guess it has nothign to do with FIA papers.
http://www.the-blueprints.com/bluepr..._s14-27737.jpg

[Tel 911S]

Originally Posted by Tel 911S

A bit confusing , but it might be the Nissan Sylvia RS which you are looking for and not the SX200.
I do not have a copy of them , but they are listed as A5247.

Edit , have just done a bit of looking , & if your car is the 1995 onwards model , then it is not the A5247 , but a lot later numbered papers .

[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by VinceS14

I want to be racing the car in our national championship. I know that in our "rally tour" championship almost any car can compete. But in the national I think I will need some homologation papers. I would fit into our grS (group S), which is a newer version of the grH (group H, hobby group). The description says, in group S can compete cars with expired homologation.

which country are you talking about (no nationality in your profile)

[Tel 911S]

It is not easy to always know which model is which . Some cars are listed by different names in different countries .
The 200SX is also called Sylvia RS .
It might help if you said the year of your car , as sometimes later models are on earlier papers as an "Evolution " model .
I have a set of the A5318 papers which I will look through when I get a bit of time , to see if they list different engine types or later body shapes etc .

[ptclaus98]

Originally Posted by VinceS14

Yes I also found a list, on the australian motorspport association's site, there was no s14 on it. But I found another list, with 4 lines including SR20 engines homologated in 1993. it should be for S13 although, as they only started to make s14 from '95. But I saw an S14 rally car on youtube, so there must be a homologation paper for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRH9wxa4OvQ

The 93 car is almost certainly the Pulsar GTi-R, and the 200sx is as it says in the designation, an S12.

[ptclaus98]

Originally Posted by Tel 911S

It is not easy to always know which model is which . Some cars are listed by different names in different countries .
The 200SX is also called Sylvia RS .
It might help if you said the year of your car , as sometimes later models are on earlier papers as an "Evolution " model .
I have a set of the A5318 papers which I will look through when I get a bit of time , to see if they list different engine types or later body shapes etc .

He's got an s14 which means he's got a 95-98 model.

[VinceS14]

Originally Posted by MGDavid

which country are you talking about (no nationality in your profile)

In my first post I wrote that I am from Hungary

[VinceS14]

Originally Posted by Tel 911S

It is not easy to always know which model is which . Some cars are listed by different names in different countries .
The 200SX is also called Sylvia RS .
It might help if you said the year of your car , as sometimes later models are on earlier papers as an "Evolution " model .
I have a set of the A5318 papers which I will look through when I get a bit of time , to see if they list different engine types or later body shapes etc .

Mine is a '97 200sx s14a. Thank you. I found 2 sr20det types, one is 1988cc the other was 1998 cc or something like this.

[Tel 911S]

http://www.fia.com/sites/default/fil...Model-2010.pdf

Link to list of Homologations .

I have looked at the 200 SX papers & it only has the V6 3 Ltr engine .
So the only option seems to be the GTI-R [ as stated by PT Claus 98 ],
which is listed as A5247 . That has the 1998 cc engine , but the first model is about 1991 , so it might not continue through the 1995/1996 years .
Sorry I have no more info than that .

[VinceS14]

Originally Posted by Tel 911S

http://www.fia.com/sites/default/fil...Model-2010.pdf

Link to list of Homologations .

I have looked at the 200 SX papers & it only has the V6 3 Ltr engine .
So the only option seems to be the GTI-R [ as stated by PT Claus 98 ],
which is listed as A5247 . That has the 1998 cc engine , but the first model is about 1991 , so it might not continue through the 1995/1996 years .
Sorry I have no more info than that .

Yes I have found this list as well. Thanks anyways. And any idea where can I download a copy of this "A5247" ?