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Old 21 Aug 2014, 23:47 (Ref:3446105)   #1
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Egg QR Fails To Meet CAMS Safety Requirements



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Old 22 Aug 2014, 00:03 (Ref:3446110)   #2
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Old 22 Aug 2014, 00:27 (Ref:3446114)   #3
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Wow. Judging by the statements of the track owner we won't see V8s at the paperclip again!

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Tetley this year has elected not to conform to CAMS track license regulations.
When contacted by Speedcafe.com, Tetley issued a stinging response to Whincup’s comments regarding the safety of the facility and said he wouldn’t be concerned if V8 Supercars chose not to return to the venue in the future.
“I think he (Whincup) needs to extremely careful in what he is saying because he is talking out of his arse,” Tetley told Speedcafe.com.
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Old 22 Aug 2014, 01:45 (Ref:3446121)   #4
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I like Whincup but they are ridiculous comments from him.
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Old 22 Aug 2014, 02:37 (Ref:3446125)   #5
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Not really.

If Scott McLaughlan was leading the championship, they'd have asked him, and I'm pretty sure he'd give a similar answer.
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Old 22 Aug 2014, 02:42 (Ref:3446128)   #6
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And that would have been equally ridiculous.

Commenting on things outside of his area of knowledge. Compared to calm and balanced opinion delivered by Mark Dutton.
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Old 22 Aug 2014, 02:46 (Ref:3446130)   #7
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'nother article - this one John Tetley's response: http://www.speedcafe.com/2014/08/22/...y-amid-unrest/
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Old 22 Aug 2014, 03:28 (Ref:3446132)   #8
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“The reason why that tyre wall was put in was because CAMS insisted on it,” Tetley told Speedcafe.com
“The inference that we haven’t done upgrades and a $60,000 wall was required is completely erroneous and it puts us in a bad light that we are not willing to tolerate.”
His own statement even seems to conflict, the way I understand it.

If you choose not to comply with the Australian ASN's safety requirements can you really cut up rough about it?
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And people wonder why street circuits are more and more popular with promoters....
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Old 22 Aug 2014, 10:35 (Ref:3446200)   #10
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I think QR is one of the safer tracks. The old earth-tyre-bank barriers at the "other" track can be quite car destroying - especially when you head straight towards one after a right hand corner and small straight!
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Old 22 Aug 2014, 11:44 (Ref:3446213)   #11
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V8Supercars needs a race in Qld (Lower than Townsville..) could Morgan Park be upgraded to the Std required?
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Old 22 Aug 2014, 11:54 (Ref:3446215)   #12
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more likely that new joint at Toowoomba (or was it Warwick?) that has backing from V8SC
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Old 22 Aug 2014, 12:05 (Ref:3446220)   #13
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Ohhhhhhh Dear! Motor Racing is dangerous! ALL tracks used in Oz have safety shortfalls...each and every one...this smells political, street race for Brissy?
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Old 22 Aug 2014, 23:36 (Ref:3446376)   #14
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Only the beginning

Or maybe this is simply the start of V8Supercrs & Wellcamp Circuit campaign for Government funding to save the lives of professional tin top drivers in Qld by building a new track !.
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Old 23 Aug 2014, 10:20 (Ref:3446501)   #15
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How is this V8 Supercars fault?

Its between CAMS and Tetley.
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Old 23 Aug 2014, 10:47 (Ref:3446507)   #16
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So why all the public comments from people other than CAMS - just think about it.
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Old 24 Aug 2014, 00:49 (Ref:3446706)   #17
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John Tetley has been on the record before as not tolerating the bullying from V8Supercars, he is playing them at their own game, they say "we won't come to your track', he says "who gives a ****, we lose money anyway, plenty of other customers who want to use it"

QR is not the only track with that sentiment, Fox told them the same thing years ago which is why they now 'hire' the track and promote it themselves. I know a number of tracks that lose money on the V8 Supercars
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Old 24 Aug 2014, 07:34 (Ref:3446748)   #18
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Decided not to bother.

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Old 24 Aug 2014, 09:44 (Ref:3446759)   #19
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How is this V8 Supercars fault?

Its between CAMS and Tetley.
Its not between CAMS and John T, it is a requirement by the FIA's delegate in Australia, to implement safety measures.
If John doesn't want to have it then that's his choice.

Its not a battle. And it does cost a owner /club a small fortune to have the Supercar circus at venues, so Johns happy not to have them their.

End of story
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Its not between CAMS and John T, it is a requirement by the FIA's delegate in Australia, to implement safety measures.
If John doesn't want to have it then that's his choice.

Its not a battle. And it does cost a owner /club a small fortune to have the Supercar circus at venues, so Johns happy not to have them their.

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Exactly. I do not disagree with anything you said.

Just astonished that people blame V8SC for everything.
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Where does that leave us mug punters in Queensland now?
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Old 24 Aug 2014, 13:06 (Ref:3446834)   #22
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Old 24 Aug 2014, 20:57 (Ref:3447006)   #23
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Exactly. I do not disagree with anything you said.

Just astonished that people blame V8SC for everything.
I have been on the inside and I can tell you that when Cochrane was in charge the 'requirements' were over the top, they have eased a bit with the new management, track safety is track safety and shouldn't be compromised

Again, as an insider I have seen CAMS be totally unreasonable and have different 'track safety standards' for different tracks, for example Bathurst at places doesn't meet the CAMS 9 metre wide rule, but it never has trouble passing safety inspections, but at other tracks they get out the tape measure - just saying
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Old 25 Aug 2014, 00:36 (Ref:3447107)   #24
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QR suffered a tragic accident, don't they need to do more than a bit extra to show they really care about safety.

Handbags at dawn statements are making their situation worse.

Surely they need to get CAMS to be more than a bit positive about their setup?

More drivers than JW have been negative about a number of circuits after the QR crash.
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I think most will agree that it takes a few similar incidents in one spot, for a track's management to implement effective permanent changes.

Their level of proactivity is usually a measure of arrogance.
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