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Patrick Head receives knighthood - John Surtees?
Noticed today that Patrick Head has received a knighthood in the latest Queen's birthday honours list.
Although well deserved for Patrick Head, one wonders how John Surtees the only man to hold world titles on 2 and 4 wheels can be overlooked for the same honour to add to his MBE & OBE. |
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It is not beyond the realms of possibility that John Surtees has been offered such an honour, and that he declined to accept it. Do not forget that no list is provided of those who refuse honours; the only reason the public find out is because the intended recipient makes the matter known.
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I do not forget that Nigel Mansell could deserve a knighthood, too...
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No. Patrick has spent years and years and more developing, researching, planning, running a Team with Sir Frank. Nigel just drove one of the best Williams cars ever..
God, thinks..... This would also mean Sir Lewis....no no no no no please, no. Last edited by djinvicta; 14 Jun 2015 at 19:04. Reason: Awful after thought.. |
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Sir Alan Jones first, surely.
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There's also been a lot of campaigning by Surtees fans (note: not by the man himself) to get him a knighthood or point out the injustice. This won't help with such formal protocols around the Honours list.
Maybe if we stop asking and shut up for a couple of years, it may just happen. |
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Does it really matter...?
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Perhaps an online petition would help
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His career is fairly more than his 1992 F1 campaign (alas, 1993 IndyCar one). So I'm not so skeptic about his chances to give him a knighthood... |
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You would have to wonder why Bernie Ecclestone has never been honoured either?.
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no disrespect but i must admit i dont see the relevance of these honours versus purely secular awards based on quantifiable achievement.
its not my tradition so i guess i dont get it, but John Surtees won a world title...does he need an investiture to validate that accomplishment? to what end does a title serve? Lewis Hamilton seems to use his to act like a proper knight...which in historical terms means dressing in the most garish and foppish way imaginable...which, it must be said, is something he excels at. |
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I think its because John won WCs on 2 and 4 wheels..
But I agree with you... The "system" needs updating here. There are many many people that go unrecognised here after spending a lifetime doing good deeds for others. The same as in all parts of the World. Some lovely people about... |
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http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...on#post3195425
FWIW, djinvicta, many good people get recognised: https://www.gov.uk/government/public...urs-lists-2015 https://www.gov.uk/government/upload..._list_2015.pdf Most you won't have heard of. |
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I agree Adam, they just dont get the same media coverage.
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Just scanned over the first 118 pages..
No Lewis H.. |
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