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Daily Telegraph Article - 15/5/2002
Most of the time in Australian newspapers, Formula One news rarely gets a mention. Perhaps one or two paragraphs a week is the most we get. However, after last Sundays farce, respected sports journalist Mike Gibson took it upon himself to write his thoughts on what happened. And remember, his column is called 'THE OPINION'!
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15 May 2002, 12:19 (Ref:287208) | #2 | ||
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Well said.
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very well said!!!!!!
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Great response. The credibility of the sport is in serious question. A few more of these an Bernie WILL change the name to WWF1!
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15 May 2002, 15:58 (Ref:287403) | #5 | ||
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Are you really suggesting that F1 could become the next WWF and we could see:
Team bosses and drivers talking absolute rubbish and inflating their chances with 'fighting talk' in the pre-race interviews? Officials turning their backs and ignoring the cheating that's clearly going on? Drivers wearing ridiculous and lurid outfits? (Hello Jenson!) Girlfriends hanging around in the pit lane in revealing gear, gloating when the opposition is getting a pasting? Some competitors consistently spending more time off the 'playing surface' than on it? Ridiculous looking trophies that are bigger than a bus? Tag-racing where only one team player really gets to finish? Loyal fans totally unaware that the whole thing is a farce? Man, I just can't accept that those sort of antics could ever happen in F1! |
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Hugh, you have hit it right between the eyes. Maybe it's time everyone woke up and realised a few things.
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15 May 2002, 16:10 (Ref:287413) | #7 | |
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WWF analogy only works if you take the view that Rubens is in competition with Michael - which Ferrari will say is not the case. From the way some of the reaction is going one would imagine that the race had been fixed between competitors (teams).
To reiterate my stance, I do think it was wrong - but mainly on grounds of it being too early in the season, F2002 being so fabulous it doesn't matter, and Schumacher on virtually any other track being by far the best. Unfortunately this last point can never now be proven, since many will quite reasonably doubt the performance of the number 2 red car in the future. |
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Good point Glen.
The other problem I have with this is the fact that Rubens had a near if not perfect weekend. He had a great qualifying run and drove a great race. He deserved that win. Perhaps that's a simplistic reason to disagree with this thing but Rubens puts in a great weekend and gets rewarded with a "move over" |
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15 May 2002, 16:34 (Ref:287436) | #10 | ||
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To me the credibility of F1 is not at stake. I feel everyone knew that Ferrari was about MS. We all knew that RB did not have the full support of Ferrari. Team orders are a part of the sport and always will be. The sad thing is that they let RB think he was gonna win till the end of the race. They should have done what they usually do and screw up his pit stop or something like that. I dont watch F1 for Ferrari. In fact I would not miss them if they left. So what they do does not have an effect on my appreciation of the sport. It is obvious that the race is not for first nor second. Third, fourth and fifth are the hot spots this season. Things are heating up at Arrows and Honda is supposed to be improved after Canada. So the midfield and best of the rest will be exciting.
Ferrari has forgotten the meaning of sport. That is fine though because they only disgrace themselves, not F1. They have Bridgeston on lock, and they ensure that one driver wins all the races. I dont see how they will be able to brag of their achievements. Wait, Toyota will be the big boys soon. They will buy all the best engineers and racers. Who knows they might give MS his last title after he leaves Ferrari in 2004. I am sure they would be able to more than double his salary just to get a sample of his genius. |
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15 May 2002, 16:44 (Ref:287446) | #11 | |
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They don't have anything to say about a "threat" - they maintain (I think this is silly because it's so early in the season) that one driver had a WDC-winning amount of points and the other had a much reduced chance of winning WDC, therefore it makes sense to maximise the one with the best chance. Like I say, I don't agree with this view but it does make sense as an argument.
Where the Ferrari stance comes apart is in the "we don't know what will happen" argument - just about the only reason conceivable reason that Schumacher coudn't comfortably get WDC again this year is illness or injury - in which case Rubens is rather badly placed to pick up where MS left off. Also, they stand a very good chance of taking the wind out of Rubens' sails, in which case he'll begin not to serve his logical purpose (in their minds, not mine) of taking P.2 as often as possible, thus maximising the WCC and taking points away fromthe next nearest WDC challenger. I don't think Rubens has the depth as a driver to out-pace Schumi consistently. We shall see. |
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Interesting that in the same year that Hawthorn won the title, it was his rival (and friend!) Stirling Moss who stood up for him when he was set to be disqualified from the Portugese GP. I just read about it in the Daily Mail today by somebody obviously against team orders. So when I read this thread I felt it was a bit ironic...
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15 May 2002, 17:19 (Ref:287485) | #15 | |
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good article f1manoz
but MS still the best sportsman of the year Scuderia Ferrari = Screw the Ferrari |
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16 May 2002, 08:47 (Ref:287833) | #16 | ||
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isnt it ironic how team orders cost ferrari the 99 WDC.
in france 99 when TFG had a car problem, the toad wouldnt let eddie pass him. that 1 point, plus the nurburgring debacle, cost EI the title |
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