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3 Aug 2002, 21:25 (Ref:349524)
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If you could change one F1 result from each year from 1996 onwards...
...which ones would you choose? Here are the ones I would go for and why:
1996: Damon at Monaco (Damon never won Monaco and he deserved to win this race) 1997: Damon at Hungaroring (Damon drove out of his skin that day in the Arrows Yamaha and so nearly created a significant piece of F1 history) 1998: M Schumacher at Spa (If M Schumacher had won that one, he might have won the WDC because Hakkinen would probably have a point deficit to Schumacher come Suzuka) 1999: Badoer at Nurburgring (Badoer drove brilliantly in the wet, working his way up to 4th, and if he had finished there, it would have been his and Minardi's best ever result) 2000: Monaco (Trulli lead that race from pole and looked like winning until his engine let go. He deserved to win that race) 2001: Spain (Poor Hakkinen's engine exploded on the final lap when he was half a minute ahead of M Schumacher. What a shame, he truly deserved that win) 2002: Austria (Just because it would have been nice to see Rubens win for a change) |
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3 Aug 2002, 21:35 (Ref:349528)
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now, in 2000 Trulli didn't lead from pole, because he didn't get pole and he didn't lead.
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3 Aug 2002, 21:38 (Ref:349532)
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Re: If you could change one F1 result from each year from 1996 onwards...
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That's so frickin uncool man!
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3 Aug 2002, 22:28 (Ref:349546)
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Can only think of one that I would like to have changed in the last few years & with hindsight, could have possibly prevented all the shenanigans that are going on in the team at the moment. Ferrari at Austria? - no chance, it has to be Damon driving the Arrows at Hungaroring in 97. I'm not grieving for Damon because he was already a world champion, but the failure of that seal worth about 30 pence of your English money, could have, and probably would have, made all the difference to a team still to score a maiden victory in all the years they have been F1 competitors & could possibly have prevented the predicament they find themselves in. Besides that it was one of the best races that Hungary's apology for an F1 circuit has produced!
If pushed to provide you with the other 4 results that I would like changed - just perm any 4 from TGF's catalogue of wins - great driver, poor politician, poor loser, poor team-mate, poor viewers trying to get a grasp of F1 on the telly, poor driving standards (when his back is to the wall, just ask Damon & Jacques, maybe Kimi) & poor, no , sorry, very rich & healthy bank balance. Hint of jealousy in this post - you bet! |
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4 Aug 2002, 01:44 (Ref:349605)
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1996: Barrichelo on Brazilian GP. He could finish 3rd in that race.
1997: Damon in Hungary (let him win). |
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4 Aug 2002, 02:11 (Ref:349611)
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Trulli in Austria I think in '97? well and truly leading until the motor went boom.(Ligier? was blue though)
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4 Aug 2002, 02:21 (Ref:349621)
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1996: I'd prefer to see Alesi win at Monaco.
1997: Damon at the Hungaroring for sure. He certainly was robbed of a fantastic first victory for the Arrows squad. However, I wouldn't mind changing Trulli to winning in Austria. Now THAT would have been a result! 1998: Fisichella losing out to Schumacher at Canada. Fisi was spectacular there, led for a long time, but he couldn't hold on.....shame...... 1999: Sentimentality - Badoer at Nurburgring. Drove the race of his life to get into fourth position, and would easily have finishing there, only for his gearbox to fail. 2000: Hakkinen in Spain. 'Nuff said. 2001: JPM leading, but retiring, in Brazil, Germany, USA etc. Brazil I'd certainly like to change. He had the race in the bag, Germany as well though. |
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4 Aug 2002, 02:40 (Ref:349624)
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I'd rather see the referee award the penalty try to the Wallabies at Christchurch because if Herbert had not been tackled without the ball the Wallabies would definitely have scored,
 and won the game. Valve 
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4 Aug 2002, 05:10 (Ref:349637)
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Benny Elias to go for the try instead of the field goal attempt in the 1989 ARL Grand Final against Canberra. Balmain eventually lost in extra time 19-12. I was heartbroken for days.....
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4 Aug 2002, 05:17 (Ref:349638)
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Hey!! you are going back too many years - I wasn't here then.
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4 Aug 2002, 05:25 (Ref:349640)
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YES!!All those mentioned!I'm surprised no one mentioned shuey winning in '94 and '97.Yes most of wouldn't DARE wish such a thing but there are some loonies out there who would love an argument,LOL.
Seriously though,if damon had won in hungary it still wouldn't have made the SLIGHTEST scrap of difference to arrows LONG TERM fortunes. |
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4 Aug 2002, 09:18 (Ref:349693)
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Hmm...
Japan 1997 (that was a set up race!) and Germany 1998/2001 (I wish first two went out) |
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4 Aug 2002, 09:56 (Ref:349703)
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Nice thread YM
 1996: Rubens Barrichello, Brazilian Grand Prix. DNF --> 1st 1997: Damon Hill, Hungarian Grand Prix. 2nd --> 1st 1998: Ricardo Rosset, Japanese Grand Prix. DNQ --> 1st (why not?) 1999: Luca Badoer, European Grand Prix. DNF --> 4th 2000: Heinz-Harold Frentzen, Monaco Grand Prix. DNF --> 2nd 2001: Juan Montoya, Brazilian Grand Prix, DNF --> 1st 2002: Kimi Raikkonen, French Grand Prix. 2nd --> 1st "2000: Hakkinen in Spain. 'Nuff said" - Manoz, he won that race - are you thinking of 2001 where he broke down on the last lap? |
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4 Aug 2002, 11:19 (Ref:349745)
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Yes......my mistake.
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4 Aug 2002, 11:43 (Ref:349758)
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1996 - Villeneuve at Melbourne
1997 - Hill at Hungary 1998 - Fisichella at Canada 1999 - Zanardi at Monza, he drove so well that day thats all i can think of for now |
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4 Aug 2002, 14:18 (Ref:349834)
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1996: Damon Hill at Monaco - he should have won
1997: Damon at the Hungaroring - again, should have won 1999: Ralf at the Nurburgring - his drive was faultless, far better than more established drivers, and he would have won if he hadn't had a puncture near to the end Those are the only ones I can really think of now. |
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4 Aug 2002, 14:42 (Ref:349846)
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Only one really matters...
Luca at the Nurburgring in '99...
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4 Aug 2002, 15:18 (Ref:349855)
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1996: Villeneuve's wheel stays on in Japan... I've always had a bad feeling about that one...
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4 Aug 2002, 15:42 (Ref:349863)
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Jacques wasn't going to win that one anyway, Jay... would have had to pass Hakkinen, TGF and Damon and wait for Damon to drop out....
I think Frentzen's retirements in 1999 should all be changed... He would have been champion otherwise (and that would have been cool!!) |
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4 Aug 2002, 16:40 (Ref:349877)
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Sorry , but this one is from 1994 , when Johnny Herbert was taken out at the start by Irvine , which was the final nail in the coffin for Team lotus.
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5 Aug 2002, 17:58 (Ref:350600)
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1996: Damon at Monaco (so Damon has Monaco win)
1997: Damon at Hungaroring (get Arrows 1 win) 1998: Coulthard at Buenos Aires (stop MS hitting him) 1999: M Schumacher at Silverstone (make it so it ended his career) 2000: Indy (get Hakkinen to win at Indy for 2 years running) 2001: Hakkinen in Spain (he deserved it) 2002: France (stop MS winning title before Germany and to get Kimi's first win) |
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5 Aug 2002, 23:57 (Ref:350944)
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1992: Nothing goes wrong with Mansells wheel at Monaco so he can finally take his first victory at the principality
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6 Aug 2002, 05:44 (Ref:351014)
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6 Aug 2002, 13:28 (Ref:351267)
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Most of these have been said before, but here's my list:
1996: Monaco. Damon wouldn't have blown up. 1997: There are a lot of potential Mika wins, but he was let down by the car. But I will also plump for Damon winning Hungary. 1998: Fisi at Canada. He goes well there and I wish he'd won a race. Would things be different? 1999: Again, there are quite a few Mika was let down. But I'll have Zanardi doing well in any GP. Perhaps Italy. 2000: Jaguar wouldn't have bothered turning up to Melbourne (or any GP since) 2001: Spain. Mika would have won. 2002: Kimi in France |
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6 Aug 2002, 20:29 (Ref:351653)
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mr v: If he had stopped cos of injury in that crash, we wouldn't be in this dull period of F1.
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