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11 Aug 2002, 21:09 (Ref:355518)
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2003 CART calender
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Feb. 23 St. Petersburg, Florida – Street Course Mar. 23 Monterrey, Mexico – Fundidora Park Apr. 13 Long Beach, California – Street Course Apr. 27 Europe – Tentative, TBA May 4 Corby, England – Rockingham Motor Speedway May 18 Chicago – Tentative, TBA June 1 Milwaukee, Wisconsin – The Milwaukee Mile June 15 Monterey, California – Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca June 22 Portland, Oregon – Portland International Raceway July 6 Cleveland, Ohio – Burke Lakefront Airport July 13 Toronto, Ontario – Street Course July 27 Vancouver, British Columbia – Street Course Aug. 10 Lexington, Ohio – Mid-Ohio Sports Car Course Aug. 17 Elkhart Lake, Wisconsin – Road America Aug. 31 Denver, Colorado – Street Course Sept. 7 Montreal, Quebec – Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve Sept. 28 Miami, Florida – Street Course Oct. 12 Mexico City, Mexico – Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez Oct. 26 Surfers Paradise, Queensland, Australia – Street Course Nov. 2 Fontana, California – California Speedway May 4th is a better date for Rockingham. |
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11 Aug 2002, 21:34 (Ref:355551)
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So any ideas on where there possible second European round could take place?
I'm thinking that Zandvoort or Monaco would be nice places to go but extremely unlikely. |
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11 Aug 2002, 22:41 (Ref:355593)
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11 Aug 2002, 22:49 (Ref:355597)
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I hope we stay as far away from Monaco as possible! That is the worst racing venue on the F1 schedule. Traditional sure...but a good race track? No way. Bernie would never allow that anyway.
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12 Aug 2002, 01:10 (Ref:355672)
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How about Monza for the second european date?
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12 Aug 2002, 02:18 (Ref:355713)
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CART won't use an F1 venue in Europe. Brands Hatch would be nice, but I'm expecting somewhere on the continent, possibly in Germany again... The Nurburgring Nordschliefe would be best, of course, but that'll never happen. I still think Brno is ideal for a CART race. Maybe Zolder. The French, I doubt are too interested in a CART race, which is too bad, they've got some great old tracks.
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12 Aug 2002, 05:24 (Ref:355753)
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Probably end up being a street race, say in Berlin? And I'm somewhat surprised to see Chicago on the list.
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12 Aug 2002, 11:51 (Ref:355956)
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London or Berlin street race would be nice!
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12 Aug 2002, 12:00 (Ref:355971)
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Here's hoping either Donington, Brands Hatch, Spa-Franchorchamps, Saschenring, Mugello or Monza gets awarded the second date. |
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12 Aug 2002, 12:03 (Ref:355975)
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Good thing they have kept Fontana
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12 Aug 2002, 12:15 (Ref:355984)
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12 Aug 2002, 12:17 (Ref:355986)
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Spa-Francorchamps would be ideal to host a CART race. But other than that the calender looks rather good.
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12 Aug 2002, 12:24 (Ref:356003)
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To make an observation... Of the confirmed races, there are 7 street parades, 8 road courses and 3 ovals - not what I would call a balanced schedule.
I just wish they could add at least one of the cookie-cutter ovals, like Las Vegas for example. Somehow I think CART would kick some major ar$e if they raced there... Last edited by rustyfan; 12 Aug 2002 at 12:24. |
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12 Aug 2002, 12:30 (Ref:356012)
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The current deal between CART and the ISC expires right after next year's race, so although it is fine to hear that Fontana was kept, it only means that it did not go away before the contractual date, and not that CART and ISC re-negotiated an agreement. I talked with a member of California Speedway operations team about one month ago and he told me that 2003 will likely be the last CART race in Fontana, no matter what the future of CART may be. |
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12 Aug 2002, 13:08 (Ref:356076)
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That's not good. It's a great race, but it never looked like it was doing very well in terms of attendance. Hopefully Cart can find something similar to replace it with where they would get a good sized crowd. Maybe not in the US...
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12 Aug 2002, 14:53 (Ref:356139)
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ChampCars have so much history with the 500-milers. They are unique in so many ways. There's the increased speed, the drafting, the attrition, the greater number of pitstops, driver fatigue...
I love 'em, and they've gotta keep 'em. |
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12 Aug 2002, 15:18 (Ref:356147)
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I agree. Too bad CART doesn't. |
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12 Aug 2002, 16:16 (Ref:356176)
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If the remaning ovals are switched to IRL,we will have 2 distinct series and no more confusion.
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12 Aug 2002, 16:20 (Ref:356180)
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Bite your tongue.
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12 Aug 2002, 16:25 (Ref:356184)
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You may be right Rob29, but I think the ovals add some variety to the series... They should be good ovals that produce exciting races though, no more Nazareths.
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12 Aug 2002, 16:28 (Ref:356187)
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Sometimes I wonder if that isn't CART's goal after all... given the development the last couple of years, there won't be any ovals left on the schedule by 2005
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12 Aug 2002, 17:43 (Ref:356223)
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I don't think there's any time when you won't have a good chance of being rained off in Britain. I'd like to see them use Donington; I went there to the ALMS race (ELMS I mean) and at the bottom of the old hairpin you get an amazing view with all the cars coming right down the curve into your seats!
I find it interesting that the Month of May is no longer sacred to The Dark Side. Is this a case of "show your true loyalties" at last? The Chicago race, or whatever race they end up having on that date, is on the last day to qualify for the other thing. Ovals can prosper outside the USA, where they are less usual and may draw a crowd, but Pook is correct when he says "America does not want to see open wheel cars on oval tracks." Judging by the number of people that show up for them, anyway, no matter how many may profess to like them in the abstract. |
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12 Aug 2002, 18:38 (Ref:356259)
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The people in Texas sure seem to enjoy indycar racing on the ovals though... Last edited by rustyfan; 12 Aug 2002 at 18:40. |
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12 Aug 2002, 18:43 (Ref:356262)
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How would we know.... They never release any attendance statistics for the IRL...a very strange practice I must say, but I have a feeling there's a good reason for this.
Liz's right though, Cart's ovals should be around the world. There's no reason that Cart should have any events with low attendance. I'm not even sure why they keep Chicago on... |
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12 Aug 2002, 19:31 (Ref:356283)
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CART said when they were at Chicago, that they wanted to stay in Chicago, but move to another venue.
Monaco is one of the best F1 venues, but probably wouldn't get a CART race. I'd go with Paul Ricard. |
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