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Old 11 Aug 2002, 22:01 (Ref:355571)   #1
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Chiltons Penalty

What happened about TC getting a drive through? I know he didn't take it so will he get a time penalty - they can't just let him off!
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Old 11 Aug 2002, 22:26 (Ref:355582)   #2
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i think he will yeah, its basically a blantant disregard of the rules! 30 second penalty or something like that i would expect, maybe less seeing as Knockhill is quite a tiny circuit.
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Old 12 Aug 2002, 03:08 (Ref:355731)   #3
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Yeah I was wondering about that too, I listened to it on TOCA radio and didn't think he took his penalty so he should have the book thrown at him for that, I think it was Gareth Howells (correct me if i'm wrong) who had to serve a penalty and took it, so what makes TC so special that he gets away with ignoring a penalty that was served to him?

All I have to say is get TC out of that car and get Graves in there, he would do a much better job, oh I forgot, TC dad bought the cars which means TC has to drive, silly me!!
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Old 12 Aug 2002, 11:49 (Ref:355953)   #4
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I'm sure the Clerks will relieve his wallet of a little cash as well...
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Old 12 Aug 2002, 12:25 (Ref:356004)   #5
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dont think that will worry them too much!
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Old 12 Aug 2002, 12:26 (Ref:356008)   #6
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Thats in addition to any other penalty they may impose!
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Old 12 Aug 2002, 12:30 (Ref:356014)   #7
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Appently it was due to a team member being out of position during the pitstop. GH got the same penalty and took it. TC was arguing that it should be a team penalty so he didn't take it.

If TC was let off the penalty and a fine was given to the team instead of the driver, what about all the penaltys earlier in the season given to drivers (e.g. Harveys wheels not on in 5 mins before start - was he supposed to get out and put them on?!)
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Old 12 Aug 2002, 20:57 (Ref:356360)   #8
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The penalty was withdrawn because the stewards recognised that the team member was out of position for safety reasons.
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Old 12 Aug 2002, 21:17 (Ref:356382)   #9
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nice to see i'm not the only one that doesn't particularly like Chilton and the way he got his drive. I agree with OVERSTEER, get Graves in the car and show him how its done!
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Old 12 Aug 2002, 22:18 (Ref:356455)   #10
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I'm disappointed with the attacks on Chilton here. It was the team's doing, not his. The call to come in for the penalty rests with the team manager.
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Old 12 Aug 2002, 22:25 (Ref:356462)   #11
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The majority of the field got their drives the same way Chilton did though, it's only because he's 17 and his dad payed for it that some people have a different attitude towards him.

Can't fault him on anything yesterday though, he managed to keep it steady in the rain.
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Old 12 Aug 2002, 22:37 (Ref:356480)   #12
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EVERYONE pays for drives (nearly, anyway). like touringlegend says, there's no reason to take tom any differently.

however, his driving standards in the sprint race were a little adventerous for the rain. he was all over the place.
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Old 12 Aug 2002, 22:48 (Ref:356491)   #13
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most of the Astras got slightly sideways going down Duffus, that was entertaining. That was what I saw during the Sprint, and well, Tom wasn't exempt from the Astras tendency to have a light rear.
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Old 12 Aug 2002, 23:27 (Ref:356518)   #14
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at the exit of the hairpin he was a liiiiitle bit aggressive...
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Old 13 Aug 2002, 00:27 (Ref:356550)   #15
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I agree with pip that he should take his penalty like a man, he thought he was man enough to enter this championship in such a strong car for little work in comparison to the more deserving likes of Graves and co.
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Old 13 Aug 2002, 09:37 (Ref:356706)   #16
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I heard the penalty got wiped but I'm not sure as to the exact reasons why.
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Old 13 Aug 2002, 10:17 (Ref:356725)   #17
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I heard the penalty got wiped but I'm not sure as to the exact reasons why.
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The penalty was withdrawn because the stewards recognised that the team member was out of position for safety reasons.
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Old 13 Aug 2002, 16:45 (Ref:356953)   #18
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Thanks for pointing that out . Didn't see it when I scanned thru earlier.
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Old 13 Aug 2002, 19:22 (Ref:357088)   #19
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OK... Tad confused now... my post has vanished???

Abducted by little grey men possibly????
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Old 13 Aug 2002, 21:28 (Ref:357249)   #20
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all i'm saying is that it isn't particularly fair that Graves who is more deserving of the drive after his hard graft last season gets left out in favour of a guy who has barely done anything. But enough, i don't wanna get into a fight about it. I understand about the penalty being wiped and everything now, and i ain't got anything against Chilton as a driver or a person.
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Old 13 Aug 2002, 22:18 (Ref:357294)   #21
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They would probably never have made it to that class if it wasn't for Chilton's funds.
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Old 14 Aug 2002, 10:19 (Ref:357549)   #22
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aye i know that, its just the fact it was like "Here's the money you need for everything, oh but u can only have it if my kid drives for you...." Barwell couldn't exactly say no cos they wanted to be in the touring class so they were stuck i guess. Oh well, any idea what the situation will be like next year?
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Old 14 Aug 2002, 15:25 (Ref:357770)   #23
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The penalty was withdrawn because the stewards recognised that the team member was out of position for safety reasons.
Was the penalty withdrawn during the race, or only afterwards?
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Old 14 Aug 2002, 21:52 (Ref:357984)   #24
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It must have been during, otherwise Chilton would have been black flagged for not coming in.
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