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1 Oct 2002, 10:29 (Ref:392901)
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So who's fault was it?
So who's fault was it? Ralf ,Juan or The car setup?
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1 Oct 2002, 10:36 (Ref:392908)
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2 guys racing,it happens.Thats why people go to motor races.Ever seen 100,000 people watching a yatch race?
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1 Oct 2002, 10:39 (Ref:392914)
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Yes, I know it happens.(that's life)
Did anyone see how furious Patrick was? |
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1 Oct 2002, 10:46 (Ref:392916)
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It was a racing accident, although i do think that maybe Rafe should have conceded the corner.
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1 Oct 2002, 10:51 (Ref:392921)
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Frank and Patrick. They allowed.. no, they encouraged the ego's of the 2 to develop that way. It's good plan to increase the competition spirit, but that's gone too far. Immediate actions should be taken.
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1 Oct 2002, 11:04 (Ref:392933)
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I have to agree with Red; Frank & Patrick have let this go to far. I think back in France last year when Ralf had his BS radio problems, that they should have been sat down and reprimanded. Racing each other is fine, but on the track they are a team. Montoya had Ralf beaten, Ralf should have backed out and lived to fight another day.
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1 Oct 2002, 11:12 (Ref:392936)
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Someone should make Ralf sit down and write 1,000 times in his best handwriting, "My name is Ralf. My name is not Michael. When I hit my teammate I will be punished."
Ralf is trying too hard and under the delusion that the name "Schumacher" means he holds an automatic Let Me By Card. How many times does he have to be shown that this is not the case? He has been told in public that JPM is the lead driver and if there were to be any team orders, they would be in favour of his teammate. Short of making him hold a sign that says "I'm No. 2" I don't know what more his bosses can be expected to do. |
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1 Oct 2002, 11:16 (Ref:392940)
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Montoya tries too hard as well under the delusion that if the media calls him the savior of the universe automatically he wins races. Trouble is that Williams staff encourage both tendencies. That does good to noone; other than McLaren and Ferrari.
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1 Oct 2002, 12:14 (Ref:392986)
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It was a racing incident, but more through the stupidity of Ralf.
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1 Oct 2002, 12:21 (Ref:392993)
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1 Oct 2002, 12:24 (Ref:392997)
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the answer is 2 different options in the poll :
It was a racing incident .......but the incident was caused by ralf losing control of his car . |
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1 Oct 2002, 12:27 (Ref:393003)
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No u are wrong.
Ralf lost control when he touched Montoya, Montoya was on the inside and ralf should have let him go, (shows u the intelligents of ralf) 
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1 Oct 2002, 12:30 (Ref:393006)
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Did they touched *before* Ralf spun? Didn't see that. :confused:
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1 Oct 2002, 12:31 (Ref:393009)
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I think it was exciting, shame it happened so soon, but it was ralf fault - he Lost the back end and ruined both their races.
I can see why he didn't want to conceed there though, getting done round the outside by your team mate would have made him look ****. as it stands he just looks stupid which is probably marginally better. |
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1 Oct 2002, 12:33 (Ref:393011)
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well, yes of course they did. When ralf came on the outside of montoya they touched, ralf hit montoyas tyre and took both out. (that's how i saw it happen, I may be wrong..)
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1 Oct 2002, 12:39 (Ref:393017)
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Ripper.....dont take this the wrong way....but you are wrong....they only made contact after Ralf lost the rear and spun nearly backwards into Montoya . They actually had about a cars width between them
Ralf was on the inside , and Juan was on the outside . |
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1 Oct 2002, 12:45 (Ref:393022)
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Oops....Maybe ur right then sato san.
Has anyone got F1 Interactive(sky digital)? |
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1 Oct 2002, 12:46 (Ref:393024)
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Thought I must have bee watching a different race! Rafe was on the inside in the one I watched too! He touched the kerb, lost the rear of his car and pitched it into Monty's tyre!
Nice Action! |
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1 Oct 2002, 12:51 (Ref:393029)
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Sato is right.
And Williams are famous for letting the drivers race each other...so Frank and Patrick fault. |
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1 Oct 2002, 13:07 (Ref:393038)
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I had already posted elsewhere: this was an occasion to establish the pecking order in Williams and Ralf didn't want to concede his territorial claims to JPM.
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1 Oct 2002, 13:16 (Ref:393049)
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It was Michael's, surely
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1 Oct 2002, 13:16 (Ref:393050)
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1 Oct 2002, 13:24 (Ref:393060)
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1 Oct 2002, 13:27 (Ref:393062)
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It was not Michael's, that's for sure. He was AHEAD of them...
However I heard that he hired an alien to hide on a grassy knoll....
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1 Oct 2002, 13:40 (Ref:393071)
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Red, it wasn't an alien, you couldn't be more wrong, it was a KGB agent. I go with Sato san. Didn't everyone have the good pictures? (I thought we all had the digital feed for the last race - well the US and the UK?) Having said that Sonic was shouting about how it was Montoya's fault, but I don't think he had realised that Montoya was so far ahead into the braking area and corner. He changed his mind after the side on replay. I think Ben realised fromt eh begining, but took pity on John and eased it the other way. |
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