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9 Mar 2003, 05:02 (Ref:529582)
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Why Schumi was not black flagged?
The rule says that a driver cannot drive with parts of his car falling out. He did it for more than 3 laps.
Is he going to be DQed? He should. |
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9 Mar 2003, 05:07 (Ref:529589)
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That's a terrible rule! I applaud drivers who can drive cars that are falling apart! This is the first time since Monaco '97 I've said flattering things about Schumacher!
He'll likely be disqualified for scraping too much off the plank under the car, though. |
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"Put a ****ing wheel on there! Let me go out again!" -Gilles Villeneuve, Zandvoort, 1979
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9 Mar 2003, 05:09 (Ref:529592)
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Remember Gilles with the front wing flipped up in front of him?
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"And the most important thing is that we, the Vettels, the Bernies, whoever, should not destroy our own sport by making stupid comments about the ******* noise." - Niki Lauda
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9 Mar 2003, 05:09 (Ref:529595)
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I think it's hard for a driver to focus on the rear view to look for parts. I agree he should have been called in earlier.
Perhaps he could have focused more on his car problems if he'd known Juan was going to throw the race away... 
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9 Mar 2003, 05:12 (Ref:529604)
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That's nothing, remember Gilles with a blowout at Zandvoort, where my sig quote comes from?!
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"Put a ****ing wheel on there! Let me go out again!" -Gilles Villeneuve, Zandvoort, 1979
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9 Mar 2003, 05:13 (Ref:529607)
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9 Mar 2003, 05:14 (Ref:529610)
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But the rules then were not the same as today. |
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9 Mar 2003, 05:16 (Ref:529613)
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"And the most important thing is that we, the Vettels, the Bernies, whoever, should not destroy our own sport by making stupid comments about the ******* noise." - Niki Lauda
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9 Mar 2003, 05:19 (Ref:529619)
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I was wondering if Schumacher was going to be DQ'd, but in the end, I guess the stewards decide that no one was threatened by the bits dangling off. Showed that Michael is very quick, bits falling off and he was still pulling out a gap!
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9 Mar 2003, 05:21 (Ref:529622)
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It also goes to show that the F2002 is probably faster than the others on 3 wheels
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9 Mar 2003, 05:31 (Ref:529640)
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have the results been made official yet?
I believe that there is some exception for odywork damaged by an incident Last edited by avsfan733; 9 Mar 2003 at 05:34. |
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9 Mar 2003, 05:46 (Ref:529654)
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Yeah, the speed of the F2002 against the others with bargeboards gone and stuff like that is worrying. What the hell kind of monster will the F2003 be?
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9 Mar 2003, 05:59 (Ref:529662)
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Which rule is it exactly please ?
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9 Mar 2003, 06:21 (Ref:529696)
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Why Schumi was not black flagged?
Maybe the fact that the Clerk of Course is a former works Ferrari Driver............ |
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9 Mar 2003, 06:22 (Ref:529697)
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I think he wasn't black-flagged because the pieces did not represent a danger to any other opponents on the circuit. No-one was following him at the time.
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9 Mar 2003, 06:29 (Ref:529702)
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Amazing... the commentators were commending Michael for his ability to race a car at such good speed despite the problem,pay tribute and all and yet we have people here who can't seem to stop ranting and pick flaws.
I applaud Lee on this one Give him a break.
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9 Mar 2003, 06:42 (Ref:529707)
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Aye!!! I just wondered when this sort of stuff will appear. Kinda missed it lately.
Stop being so infantile. FIA actually revamps the entire sporting regulations just to break Ferrari/Schumacher domination and you still accuse them of favoring Ferrari!  Grow up boys. PS: Was Witting a former Ferrari Driver? You sure? |
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9 Mar 2003, 06:59 (Ref:529719)
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Can't see why anyone is suggesting disqualification - isn't standard procedure, a black/orange flag and return to pits to rectify the problem? It seems he had to take on fuel, so I don't think it would have made much difference anyway. |
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9 Mar 2003, 07:02 (Ref:529722)
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OK, so what if the barge boards had fallen of and caused another car to crash??
it could happen......... |
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9 Mar 2003, 08:04 (Ref:529764)
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9 Mar 2003, 08:05 (Ref:529765)
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9 Mar 2003, 08:17 (Ref:529770)
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Yes, sorry. So what? Williams, Brabham, Surtees, Trojan even Lotus. Anyway, my points regarding FIA's attitude vs Ferrari and Schumacher stands. Care to comment?
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9 Mar 2003, 09:27 (Ref:529803)
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Quote"What would happen if it flew off into the crowd!"
?!! Arn't you guys getting a little exaggerating? Might as well sue BMW for the possibility that the lollipop may have killed JPM. Or that JPM's spin could have caused a fatal chain accident and hence he should be hanged for carelessness?  Red...and we were talking just on Wednesday what new conspiracies would take place in the new season... |
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9 Mar 2003, 09:39 (Ref:529809)
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The arguement is pointless as Schumi was black-arange-flagged after just two laps with his board hanging so the marshals did it right. This just was about the time for his scheduled pit-stop so he came in and refuelled. I'm not sure if the board had fallen before he entered the pits. But to blackflag him - it's ridiculous. And what about this "mad about closing the door" thing.
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9 Mar 2003, 09:50 (Ref:529816)
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Nobody black flag Mika when his front wheels came off during the race and bounce back to the road in Silverstone (though luckily the pit entrace is just 300m further down). When the marshals think that there is no immediate danger, the car is allowed to continue as long as it's speed isn't badly compromised. But if it poses intermediate danger, they would, as in this case, request the car to come in to have the problem retified before going back to the circuit.
So there is no problem here, no reasons for a justified disqualification. Nothing wrong with the marshals, nor the FIA, nor Ferrari... accept it and not try to stain the tablecloth.. |
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