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Old 12 Apr 2003, 11:34 (Ref:567171)   #1
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Promec (new car)

You may know that there's a new car in FIA SCC aPromec with the same engine as Pescarolo One of the drivers is Caffi:http://www.fastdetails.com/events/pi...toril_03_3.jpg http://www.fastdetails.com/events/pi...toril_03_5.jpg
It's not a wonderfull car!!!!!
You may know them I think that last year they tested with a BMW engine but didn't race...
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Old 12 Apr 2003, 12:06 (Ref:567188)   #2
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Re: Promec (new car)

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It's not a wonderfull car!!!!!
But I´m afraid we need new cars as this Promec.
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Old 12 Apr 2003, 12:45 (Ref:567204)   #3
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Of course but it's better when the new cars are "wonderfull"
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Old 12 Apr 2003, 13:01 (Ref:567217)   #4
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The car looks to be as safe as an early 1970's F1 car...


I thought that the high edge cockpits (that are supposed to minimize head and neck injuries) were mandatory for opentop cars?

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Old 12 Apr 2003, 14:34 (Ref:567256)   #5
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5th in the Grid, not bad for the racing debut.
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Old 12 Apr 2003, 14:59 (Ref:567274)   #6
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The car looks to be as safe as an early 1970's F1 car...


I thought that the high edge cockpits (that are supposed to minimize head and neck injuries) were mandatory for opentop cars?
That cockpit does look alarmingly open...

The rest of the car would look quite stylish if it wasn't painted that awful shade of yellow

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Old 12 Apr 2003, 15:43 (Ref:567296)   #7
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Body design mimics that of a cross between the front of a Lola, and aft of the driver's seat of a Courage C52 with a smaller engine cover.

It looks to me that a good number of new teams are looking to the aspects of the 3.5L forced-induction engine rather than a large displacment V8, 10, or 12. Even if there is the problem of higher rebuild costs, it balances out in the horsepower returns from the ease of adjustability.
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Old 12 Apr 2003, 16:57 (Ref:567334)   #8
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The design of this car is conservative but not ugly. Only that "open cockpit" looks odd these days.

Who's behind this Italian (?) Promec team/company?

Is this maybe Lavaggi's new prototype car?
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Old 13 Apr 2003, 08:23 (Ref:567915)   #9
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Looks like a mid 80s low level F1 car with bodywork and a nose from the B2k/10.
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Old 13 Apr 2003, 10:27 (Ref:567999)   #10
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Looks alright
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 14:38 (Ref:569099)   #11
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On the old FIA site, they had testing pics from last year...

Can someone please post any pics from this past weekend of the Promec chassis???

I'd like to see it...
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 14:41 (Ref:569101)   #12
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Sorry...it's Monday....

I just clicked the links at the top...

Overall, it is not that bad...not high-tech looking, but it sure is low and fairly sleek...

Anytime there is a new chassis in the mix I am pleased...the more the merrier....

That is how this sport will grow...
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 15:52 (Ref:569150)   #13
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Can't agree more, Tim.

BTW, the car is not that bad, IMHO, except maybe the colour ...
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 18:30 (Ref:569308)   #14
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Maybe they can mix that "Glow-in-the-dark" yellow with the new "Pescarolo Green for the fenders and the wing...

You would sure be able to see it on the track at night...

But I don't know if you could take 24-hours of those two colors together...especially on a full stomach
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 19:46 (Ref:569369)   #15
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Is it just me, but doesn't it look tiny
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 20:01 (Ref:569385)   #16
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It looks very low to me, too....either that , or the driver should be playing basketball...

I don't think that the Promec is stunning, but it isn't ugly, either...

It will be interesting to see how it ultimately runs....
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 20:53 (Ref:569442)   #17
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Promec had power problems at Estoril.
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 21:02 (Ref:569456)   #18
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From the looks of that car, they don't have a lot of room under the rear bodywork for a bigger Judd engine....

A top-grade chassis will still be a dog if you don't have an engine that can push it with power...

Wasn't that car initally tested in early 2002 with a BMW engine in it???

Help me out here...I remember that correctly, don't I???
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 21:12 (Ref:569474)   #19
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You may know them I think that last year they tested with a BMW engine but didn't race...
I sade it in theboriginal topic message... WAKE UP!!!
In fact I think it wasn't this chassis because it didn't have this look at all...I can't find any photos...
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 21:14 (Ref:569476)   #20
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I have to wake up too!!!
I "SAID" ....ETC
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 21:18 (Ref:569486)   #21
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The only picture I could find of the chassis prior to this weekend was on the outdated FIA site...the car was still in it's unpainted carbon-fiber form....unfortunately, that photo has vanished in their "site reconstruction" that began two days before their first race...

I do remember the bodywork sitting higher behind the driver, but don't remember how much higher...
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 21:33 (Ref:569497)   #22
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http://www.sportscarchampionship.com...ec+Engineering
I finally found an old photo of the car in the old fiascc site
Try the link...
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 21:38 (Ref:569499)   #23
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That sits noticeably higher than the current model with the Peugeot engine....

That bodywork could probably hold a Judd engine....
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 21:43 (Ref:569503)   #24
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try this link too. They are a year late!!!http://www.sportscarchampionship.com...ews.cgi?ID=301
They wanted to start last year with a 5 litres BMW and since magnycourt 2 cars with sodemos...
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Old 14 Apr 2003, 21:49 (Ref:569509)   #25
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Personally, I think the Peugeot power is a mistake, but they must know what they think is best-suited to the chassis...

I hope they do have some success...they sure tired to get up front quickly yesterday, didn't they...but jumping the start only puth them in a hole to dig out of from behind....
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