F3000 race at Monaco

esorniloc · 31 May 2003, 13:52 (Ref:615803)

When is the race?

x_dt · 31 May 2003, 14:29 (Ref:615853)

4pm BST (5pm CET, 11am EST)

Full schedule:
http://www.formula-3000.net/2003_04_sched.php
(it says on the page 'A1-Ring schedule' but that is surely a typo - the A1-Ring race was race 3)

Fish_Flake · 31 May 2003, 16:15 (Ref:615933)

There's one for the Stupidity Archives! Wirdheim, who dominated the race, did the complete slowdown along the pit wall, and let Kiesa go right by him about 50 feet from the checkered flag! Unthinkable! He didn't even notice him!

corkholio · 31 May 2003, 16:22 (Ref:615938)

Not to mention W@nkerfico punting out Pantano.

While he was a whole f-ing lap down.

DavidStHubbins · 31 May 2003, 17:06 (Ref:615977)

Well done to Nick though, long time coming that win!

Silly Bjorn...

racingdick · 31 May 2003, 17:07 (Ref:615978)

ITS OFFICIAL FORMULA 3000 IS TO RENAMED FORMULA FARCICAL!

Jack Man · 31 May 2003, 17:16 (Ref:615986)

What a Bonehead!! I couldn't believe my eyes. Well done Nick great job keeping up on the restarts, missing the wrecks and remembering where the finish line was.

DavidStHubbins · 31 May 2003, 17:18 (Ref:615988)

Sounds like a riot! Wish I had seen it. I love the bit where Sperafico gets revenge on Pantano for an earlier nerf! What comes around goes around, eh?!

mrinvader · 31 May 2003, 18:32 (Ref:616044)

Sperafico is the biggest idiot out there.

DanFlag · 31 May 2003, 18:36 (Ref:616045)

There was a lotof weird things happening in that race, espeicially the Sperafico hit and run and the Wirdheim lunatic driving

429CJ · 31 May 2003, 19:39 (Ref:616077)

Just one more evidence, that F3000 does not product top racers.

evo · 31 May 2003, 20:38 (Ref:616119)

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Originally posted by 429CJ
Just one more evidence, that F3000 does not product top racers.

Sebastian Bourdais?

JR Ewing · 31 May 2003, 20:54 (Ref:616130)

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Originally posted by evo
Sebastian Bourdais?

Good call!

steve nielsen · 31 May 2003, 21:16 (Ref:616162)

for those of you who can recieve Eurosport: tomorow 10 am CET

Speeddemon555 · 1 Jun 2003, 01:36 (Ref:616322)

Windhem suffered a major brain fade on the last lap while he was stopping his car waving at his teammates while the checker flag was 200 yards away. Nicolas Kiesa passed Windhem for an improable win. Windhem was embarassed infront of a crowd of sponsors and F1 teams.

mac · 1 Jun 2003, 04:12 (Ref:616363)

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Originally posted by evo
Sebastian Bourdais?

Mark Webber?
Justin Wilson?
Montoya?
Alonso?
Heidfeld?

But I admit that is getting less and less common.

AVARICE · 1 Jun 2003, 08:30 (Ref:616485)

Wirdheim: Not waving...drowning.

*formula3* · 1 Jun 2003, 08:38 (Ref:616486)

what do you think about the tocacello/liuzzi incident?
was it a technical problem of tocacello or did he brake?

that was a helluva lot of luck for liuzzi and the marshalls behind the fence

RonnieP · 1 Jun 2003, 09:32 (Ref:616524)

How can you be so stupid to stop on the finish straight in the first place? Isn't it custom to do a victory lap? Is it common sense to stop a car at all on the "hot" circuit after a race? God almighty, this guy might as well go back to driving bumper cars or whatever he's been doing before...

**ghinzani** · 1 Jun 2003, 09:43 (Ref:616533)

Well that Wirdheims career soured and in front of the F1 crowd too! reckon we will see him in sportscars a la Thomas Enge next year??

And Pantano should have let Spreafico thru really - which one is that btw , the one who was with Petrobras last year? wheres the other one gone (his twin, not the slow cousin) does anyone know?

Down F0rce · 1 Jun 2003, 10:18 (Ref:616573)

That was quite an interesting race

corkholio · 1 Jun 2003, 10:27 (Ref:616585)

Rodrigo has been basically reduced to watching his idiot twin brother from the Coloni pits.

R · 1 Jun 2003, 10:49 (Ref:616595)

I like Björn, and I think he's a great driver, but what an idiotic thing to do! He did notice Kiesa, but only after Kiesa had passed him. Notice how Björn floored the accelerator, but it was too late! Goodness me - have something like that ever happened before?!

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Originally posted by corkholio
Not to mention W@nkerfico punting out Pantano.

I think Pantano was equally to blame for that. He should have let Sperafico (Ricardo, btw) by, as Sperafico was a whole lap down. Witness how Björn Wirdheim let Sperafico by - Pantano should have done the same, and then he would have won the race when Wirdheim slowed down!

Regarding Liuzzi, his crew couldn't possibly have informed him that Toccacelo was going to get a drive through penalty (a deserved one, btw, to be served within three laps) for cutting a corner. Why didn't they inform Liuzzi of that? He wouldn't have been so aggressive then, and the incident wouldn't have happened in the first place. F3, I think Liuzzi plainly misjudged the situation, and got too close.

And could we please now lose those silly nicknames for Zsolt Baumgartner? (Zslow and Slowgartner.) He finished a very credible fifth at Monaco, and is not slow at all, so those nicknames are clearly misplaced.

The positive thing for Björn is that he pulls a further 8 points ahead, as neither Pantano nor Sperafico scored any points. But what a way to lose a race! And at the classic venue of Monaco too, where most drivers, if they were to choose just one place where they would most like to win, this would be it!

jetsetter · 1 Jun 2003, 11:49 (Ref:616626)

That has to be one of the funniest things i've heard, if i was his team boss i'd take him down to the finish line before the race & show him exactly where it is.

ensign14 · 1 Jun 2003, 14:03 (Ref:616679)

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Originally posted by R
I like Björn, and I think he's a great driver, but what an idiotic thing to do! He did notice Kiesa, but only after Kiesa had passed him. Notice how Björn floored the accelerator, but it was too late! Goodness me - have something like that ever happened before?!

Yep - Mark Martin in Busch GN came into the pits a lap early when leading under yellows, also a sportscar race in the 60s when a formation finish went wrong when the chap in 4th caught up and overtook the first 3 on the line (Rob Slotermaker involved, IIRC).

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I think Pantano was equally to blame for that. He should have let Sperafico (Ricardo, btw) by, as Sperafico was a whole lap down. Witness how Björn Wirdheim let Sperafico by - Pantano should have done the same, and then he would have won the race when Wirdheim slowed down!

Disagree, Sperafico's actions were reprehensible in the extreme and he should be forced to sit out the remainder of the championship.

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And could we please now lose those silly nicknames for Zsolt Baumgartner? (Zslow and Slowgartner.) He finished a very credible fifth at Monaco, and is not slow at all, so those nicknames are clearly misplaced.

NO!! To trundle round in the company of F3000 rookies, not overtaking anyone, when you have loads more experience than almost anyone else in the field does not take much effort. B'sides which they're easier to spell.

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