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Old 14 Oct 2003, 14:35 (Ref:750919)   #1
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I'm just reading the race notes from drivers and teams from the last race and something disppoints me.

I recall for many years (dating back to the Mika Championships) the runners up and other teams would congratulate the winning Team and Driver in their press release.

Readin through Williams, Mclaren and Renault I can't see anything from a driver, and only congratulations from Patrick Head, Mario Theissen, Norbert Haug & Pat Symonds.

It seems Ralf, Juan, Frank, Kimi, David, Ron, Fernando, Jarno and Flav could'nt find anything to say. I also heard that when asked to comment on Michael and Ferrari's victory, Kimi and DC stared at each other in silence and refused to comment.

Not that it matters much, but does anyone find this a little odd? I have read congratulation posts form some absolute diehard Montoya, Kimi etc fans over the last few days. If we can get past these things, why cant the teams?

If there is another explanation (and I hope there is) I appologise, if not, this is very poor form IMO.
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Old 14 Oct 2003, 14:38 (Ref:750926)   #2
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Are they in some way obliged to congratulate the winner or what?

Sore losers whould be when they whine about it like 'he's got to be cheating!' and stuff...
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Old 14 Oct 2003, 14:39 (Ref:750929)   #3
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I noticed the same thing, but didn't post here, for fear of being chastised. Not even Schumi's "fan" drivers such as Alonso, Button and Webber said anything. It seems very strange to me as well.
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Old 14 Oct 2003, 14:41 (Ref:750932)   #4
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Are they in some way obliged to congratulate the winner or what?
Not obligated, but without question it is considered sporting. On football fields they shake each others hands, and the loser will congratulate the winner.

You dont have to fall to your knees chanting "We are not worthy, we are not worthy", but I know Michael congratulated Mika on both occassions, and Mika the same in return.

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Sore losers whould be when they whine about it like 'he's got to be cheating!' and stuff...
Are YOU sure you want that to be the definition of a sore loser?
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Old 14 Oct 2003, 14:41 (Ref:750933)   #5
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Uhm..... yes?
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Old 14 Oct 2003, 14:42 (Ref:750936)   #6
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I suppose if we give them the benefit of the doubt, at least one representative from Willi, Mac and Renault did congratulate Michael and Ferrari. I don't recall how the form has gone in previous years, but it would be nice to hear congratulations from at least the top competing drivers - just my opinion, but I'm sure Michael would have congratulated Kimi had it gone that way.
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Old 14 Oct 2003, 14:46 (Ref:750940)   #7
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Uhm..... yes?
I think possibly my learned colleague is asking you if you have made any references to a team cheating when your favourites have been beaten. But then again maybe not.
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Old 14 Oct 2003, 14:49 (Ref:750944)   #8
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Uhm..... yes?
You dont want me to go diggin up your old posts again do ya keystrokes?
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Old 14 Oct 2003, 15:13 (Ref:750961)   #9
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Ron does'nt usally congratulate people but its a surprise that Alonso did'nt.
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Old 14 Oct 2003, 15:22 (Ref:750969)   #10
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Frank Williams wasn't well enough to travel to Japan, so I guess that lets him off the hook.
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Old 14 Oct 2003, 15:32 (Ref:750983)   #11
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It looked pretty evident that Alonso had his own woes.
In any case, if I were a driver who has witnessed the same face on the top step of the podium 70-something times in ten years, I'd probably feel peaved enough not to waste my breath on congratulations.
Especially so when the focus of the majority of those wins and championships has been the "battling" against records instead of competing against opponents.
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Old 14 Oct 2003, 15:36 (Ref:750988)   #12
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Ron Dennis and Alonso cannot be evaluated the same way: Ron Dennis is a real loser this year, cos even failed to put the new car on the track.

Alonso had an extremely positive year and he can be considered some way a winner; one possible reason of not congratulating MS in public is that he was highly upset after he had to retire when he was in a very good position to win the Japan GP.
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Old 14 Oct 2003, 15:37 (Ref:750990)   #13
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Frank Williams wasn't well enough to travel to Japan, so I guess that lets him off the hook.
Superfluous to say, Stephen: who ever would dispute Frankie's sportmanship?
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Old 14 Oct 2003, 16:40 (Ref:751073)   #14
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I guess it just gets a tad monotonous congratulating the same bloke year after year........
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Old 14 Oct 2003, 16:42 (Ref:751077)   #15
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You dont want me to go diggin up your old posts again do ya keystrokes?

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Ron does'nt usally congratulate people but its a surprise that Alonso did'nt.
I disagree with this, however I am bored with battling against this kind of fallacy against Ron and McLaren.
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Well there is one...

Despite posting this, i do generally agree with what Wrex has pointed out. Most years people are falling over themselves (Ron included) to congratulate them.

Maybe as Ayse suggests, it is just accepted that Ferrari win now! he he. Maybe it is that it is dull and a reporter would rather invent a Michael retire story? A bit of both?
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It seems Ralf, Juan, Frank, Kimi, David, Ron, Fernando, Jarno and Flav could'nt find anything to say.
"Sore losers" ???

Why ?, because you haven't seen any "public" statement from them on TV/mag/Site ?

We don't know if those drivers called him directly or sent an e-mail to say "Congratulations Michael..."
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Well MARK WEBBER had been quoted as saying when 2 races were left that he wanted MS to be WDC because he was the best!!

RALF congratualated MS by thrashing a TV!!

FA, JPM, KIMI, MAC and WILLIAMS? well i think its ungentlemen like not to come out and congratualate but well its a free world...... they can do what they like......
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oh, Ralf didn't congratulate him, surely Michael congratulated Ralf for his great avoidance of the Ferrari at the chicane!
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Before anyone else jumping on this...

I would like to congratulate Michael Schumacher for winning his sixth world championship, the Ferrari team for winning their Constructor championship and Rubens Barrichello for winning the race and helping the team. I hope that the others teams continue their development and reach the edge to challenge and beat Ferrari next year.




phew... I feel much better now.
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DAMN you BON!!! you stole my next thread idea!! I was gonna start a "BONONI is a sore loser thread"


and...... CONGRATS MS AND FERRARI!!!! i think they did a super job especially after HUNGARY ( and NO i am to converting into a TGF fan)
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I agree with Wrex. The first bloke beaten should congratulate the winner. At least that is what my mum taught me. I have congratulated many people...

Wrex. Congrats on winning that Grand Prix manager thing...
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'O.K. you won it again, cheers, and now, get the f*** out of here!!'
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