richards - villeneuve

GreenAdam · 28 Sep 2004, 11:36 (Ref:1109214)

Right, I'm afraid we can't leave a copied article on the site without acknowledgement, so I've edited this to simply leave what DR said - which is the basis of the thread after all...

Quote:

BAR boss David Richards said:
When you have been a world champion, people expect you to come back at the same level, but it is difficult to be competitive when you have had a year out of a Formula 1 car.

I cannot see Jacques threatening anybody next season.

I know racing drivers have successfully had comebacks in the past, but these days we need younger drivers.

Youth is the great new thing in Formula 1 and we plan to continue investing in young drivers.

**Peter Mallett** · 28 Sep 2004, 11:41 (Ref:1109223)

Hmm,

Should we run away now or just wait for Teddy and Kirk to arrive?

Glen · 28 Sep 2004, 11:47 (Ref:1109229)

At last, after far too long, Massa is beginning to impress these days. Jacques ain't gonna like it, but I'm afraid that on current form (scant though it is) he may find himself coming second to his team-mate quite often next year.

GreenAdam · 28 Sep 2004, 12:00 (Ref:1109237)

yes think you are right massa is beginning to impress after
he has finish sauber he will move to a differnt term

GreenAdam · 28 Sep 2004, 12:03 (Ref:1109242)

villeneuve said he will bet BAR he will not

BootsOntheSide · 28 Sep 2004, 12:07 (Ref:1109243)

Haven't you been warned about reprinting articles without crediting them before? Read the forum rules again Adam.

How can youth be the great new thing in F1? What does this sentence actually mean?

I think tems are being very naive in putting all their faith in youngsters. For every Raikkonen there's a Pantano - a driver who, for whatever reason, doesn't get to grips with F1 despite a promising CV - or a Capelli - a driver who does well in a smaller team buts truggles when in a top team.

ASCII Man · 28 Sep 2004, 12:08 (Ref:1109244)

My, oh my...
So quick to put someone down after only one race...
It's quite pathetic, really...

Figures...

**Peter Mallett** · 28 Sep 2004, 12:12 (Ref:1109249)

Quote:

Originally posted by GreenAdam
yes think you are right massa is beginning to impress after
he has finish sauber he will move to a differnt term

Of course Massa could finish with Sauber and go to the same team.

Kicking-back · 28 Sep 2004, 12:47 (Ref:1109272)

Do these comments from Richards hint that Anthony Davidson will be replacing the departing Button next year....

spider · 28 Sep 2004, 13:28 (Ref:1109333)

It sounds like it KB! If he goes for DC after that remark he'll be contradicting himself somewhat...

steve_r · 28 Sep 2004, 13:31 (Ref:1109338)

I'm sure Anthony Davidson enjoyed reading those comments.

T0MAT01 · 28 Sep 2004, 13:33 (Ref:1109339)

Yeah but Ant supposedly had a contract with Jag for next year so DR must have let him go elsewhere (no doubt DR would have had an option on Ant) so to choose Ant for next year would also contradict his actions.

Kicking-back · 28 Sep 2004, 13:40 (Ref:1109349)

Anthony had spoken to Jaguar, but hadn't signed anything.

GreenAdam · 28 Sep 2004, 14:20 (Ref:1109400)

He is going to test driver for 2005

**Peter Mallett** · 28 Sep 2004, 14:23 (Ref:1109404)

He's going to test drive what in 2005?

Snrub · 28 Sep 2004, 14:28 (Ref:1109409)

Massa looked good for a couple laps at the start of the chinese GP but then a line of cars including Fisi passed him like he was driving a Jordan. I think Massa has had his shot, is there no one else Sauber can find who will satisfy Ferrari? Will he beat JV? I don't know, I'm reserving an opinion until we see JV's performance at the next race.

R · 28 Sep 2004, 14:41 (Ref:1109428)

Quote:

Originally posted by GreenAdam
What do you make of Richards' remarks? Do you agree that Villeneuve is past his best or is it too early to judge whether he is still quick enough? Have your say below. The best answers will be published on the site later in the day.

ROFL! Best answers will be published later in the day? What are you on about? Aren't all answers (whether they are good or not

) published at the moment the poster hits the "submit reply" button?

That was the joking reply. Now for the serious one: Why don't you write your own posts instead of copying from another site?

Alpine Star · 28 Sep 2004, 14:58 (Ref:1109446)

David Richards... I believe that he had some arguments in the past with Villeneuve, something about costing too much? I bet his comments are as unbias as a Vegan at McDonalds....

Glen · 28 Sep 2004, 15:11 (Ref:1109458)

Quote:

Originally posted by Snrub
Massa looked good for a couple laps at the start of the chinese GP but then a line of cars including Fisi passed him like he was driving a Jordan. I think Massa has had his shot, is there no one else Sauber can find who will satisfy Ferrari? Will he beat JV? I don't know, I'm reserving an opinion until we see JV's performance at the next race.

Didn't you carry on watching? He finished one place behind his team-mate.

Did Ferrari engineer JV's 2005/6 contract as well?

Jordi · 28 Sep 2004, 15:50 (Ref:1109496)

If he signs DC he'll need no one to tell him what he is.

garcon · 28 Sep 2004, 16:04 (Ref:1109503)

Thread temporarily closed while I try to make sense of it...

It'll be re-opened once it's been tidied up a bit...

GreenAdam, you've been asked before not to copy and paste articles. Please post a link to the page you got it from, or if it's not on a free to view site at least acknowledge where you got it. Otherwise we're in breach of copyright laws.

There is scope for a sensible discussion here, but if it descends to bash/counter-bash, it's gone.

garcon · 28 Sep 2004, 16:15 (Ref:1109509)

OK, thread re-opened on two conditions.

1. GreenAdam - post us the link to where you got this or it'll have to go for breaking copyright rules.

2. I'll repeat, don't let this descend into bash/counterbash, there's a sensible discussion to be had on Richards' comments here - like is DR in any position to make such comments, is it just a throwback to the BAR debacle, or has he got a point??

Glen · 28 Sep 2004, 16:22 (Ref:1109519)

It's a point that very many people will never accept, even if it turns out to be a valid one. Personally, I think there is a place for him in F1 - and I think the Sauber job may well be about right. There really is only one driver that can mix it with the best of the youngsters - the fitness level, the science, the aggression and the pressure are the makings of a young man's game. No different to any sport.

mattmarvell · 28 Sep 2004, 17:23 (Ref:1109586)

I can't see how Richards can make a valid judgement on JV this early just as I can't see how other people who say his written off on this forum can make such judgements.

just wait and see.

Could also be Richards trying to put JV off the game in trying to beat BAR

T0MAT01 · 28 Sep 2004, 17:48 (Ref:1109607)

Quote:

Originally posted by garcon
.... is DR in any position to make such comments, is it just a throwback to the BAR debacle, or has he got a point??

If you interpret DR's comments along the lines of Jacques didn't really impress anyone in China then I would agree with him and I think DR would probably admit that it is too soon to judge Jacques' racing ability after his first race back from a year out.

His comments aren't that bad, and who's suprised to hear he prefers younger drivers? they're the easiest ones to tie into a long term contract.

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