Barcelona Testing Updated - 17/02/05

[Super Tourer]

Pos. Driver Team Time Laps
1 F. Alonso Renault 01:14:991 110
2 JP. Montoya McLaren 01:15:227 82
3 R. Zonta Toyota 01:15:374 83
4 K. Räikkönen McLaren 01:15:404 71
5 G. Fisichella Renault 01:15:648 63
6 D. Coulthard Red Bull 01:15:713 92
7 V. Liuzzi Red Bull 01:16:143 70
8 M. Webber Williams 01:16:509 92
9 J. Trulli Toyota 01:16:551 97
10 M. Schumacher Ferrari 01:16:639 101
11 A. Pizzonia Williams 01:16:726 54
12 N. Karthikeyan Jordan 01:20:029 81
13 T. Monteiro Jordan 01:22:076 86

http://www.f1racing.net/en/testresults.php?testID=194

The session was marred by a violent accident for Kimi Raikkonen, the McLaren snapped away on the approach to turn 11 and hit the barriers before spiralling across the track. Raikkonen did not require hospital treatment, but the team called for a doctor to attend to him in the motorhome. He is thought to be shaken but OK.

The car suffered extensive damage to the left hand side.

Trulli gave the new version of the Toyota TF105 a run out - Zonta was in the original TF105.

On the testing front - great time again from Renault.

Midland Jordan's massively off the pace - the car seemed to have some new aero tweaks to it, including a smaller and different shape rear wing end plate.

http://www.f1racing.net/en/photolarg...768&catID=1555

[Inigo Montoya]

That rear wing end plate looks coooool!

[Kicking-back]

Shunt aside, testing seems to be going well for Renault and McLaren.

Red Bull quietly impressive too.

Zonta was in a 2004 Toyota.



Jordan are a long way off at the moment - but I think they may pick up a bit of pace in the coming days.

[f1_carzy]

Ferrai and Bridgestone are not looking all that great...thats depressing...

[Kicking-back]

Just been updated by someone who was following events in Barcelona - on race pace, McLaren seem to be about 5s ahead of Renault on a 20 lap stint.

Also - in back to back comparisons with and without the "horns" - it seems to be giving them 0.2s a lap.

[Kicking-back]

A picture:

http://www.f1total.com/bilder/show.p...stbarca3&b=022

[f1_carzy]

Wow! thats some pace....until now looked like that the competition is going to be between Renault and Mclaren, but looking at the times reported by KB, Mclaren are going to be miles ahead, and the rest of the pack (including Ferrari) r going to chase..

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by Super Tourer

Midland Jordan's massively off the pace - the car seemed to have some new aero tweaks to it, including a smaller and different shape rear wing end plate.

http://www.f1racing.net/en/photolarg...768&catID=1555

Are Jordan testing the new A1 car?

[Knowlesy]

That rear wing endplate of Jordans is very retro........like it!

[Mr V]

Originally Posted by f1_carzy

Ferrai and Bridgestone are not looking all that great...thats depressing...

Whilst i wouldn't call Ferrari and Bridgestone off the pace "depressing" it's worth remembering that its only testing. You can be sure that Ferrari will be up there ("depressingly" in front of the rest i should imagine) come Melbourne.

[GP Racer]

Interesting to see Liuzzi hangin close to teamate DC and the rest of the top dogs. Nice showing by them.

What can you say about the Jordan, two new drivers in a bad car.

Looked like a hard hit for Kimi, glad he's ok. I wonder if Kimi is losing faith in this team, after last years rear wing snapped off, and now this.

[Mal]

Remember the same happened last year. Ferrari looked way behind in pre season testing and them wham! So dont write them off yet.

[Kicking-back]

Why would Kimi be losing faith in the team?

These things happen - Michael Schumacher's had a fair few hefty testing shunts over the year.

[GP Racer]

Yes shunts happen, but he had a terrible car to work with last year and a couple of shunts due to mechanical failure, and now to have another bad one that sounds mechanical, could wreck your confidence in a teams ability to give you a good car.

[Sodemo]

Woah , that Kimi shunt must have been huge, stick that chassis in the bin chaps...

EDIT: How many 2005 cars do McLaren have?
I wonder if this slight indiscretion might hinder their testing program slightly?

[Kicking-back]

Originally Posted by GP Racer

Yes shunts happen, but he had a terrible car to work with last year and a couple of shunts due to mechanical failure, and now to have another bad one that sounds mechanical, could wreck your confidence in a teams ability to give you a good car.

Most of Schumi's testing shunts have been car failures too.

Yes - McLaren came out with a poor car at the start of 2004 - but they turned the situation round in a way few teams could've done - and still won a race.

The 2005 car looks fast and reliable.

Over several seasons, McLaren is one of the best places to be as a driver.

[Kicking-back]

Latest on this from McLaren:


It wasn't a car failure as such.

Some debris (from the track, I assume) got between a brake caliper and wheel rim, essentially machined a groove, causing a failure.

The car will be rebuilt overnight and driven by Pedro de la Rosa tomorrow.

[Kicking-back]

One other snippet - the transponder at the track has Montoya and Raikkonen the wrong way round.

Kimi's fastest was 1:15.2, Montoya's 1:15.4

[ralf fan]

So they seem to have clawed back most of their time..... just imagine the times if the new rules were not intorduced....

[Super Tourer]

Originally Posted by ralf fan

So they seem to have clawed back most of their time..... just imagine the times if the new rules were not intorduced....

I guess you just took the words right out of Max Mosley's mouth!

[Super Tourer]

Times from 16/02/05

1. Montoya McLaren - 1:13.913 119 laps
2. Fisichella Renault - 1:14.408 87 laps
3. Zonta Toyota - 1:14.502 91 laps
4. Alonso Renault - 1:14.552 74 laps
5. Coulthard Red Bull - 1:15.418 111 laps
6. Klien Red Bull - 1:15.673 79 laps
7. Webber BMWWilliams - 1:15.841 68 laps
8. Barrichello Ferrari - 1:15.912 115 laps
9. Trulli Toyota - 1:16.060 120 laps
10. Heidfeld BMWWilliams - 1:16.077 93 laps
11.de la Rosa McLaren - 1:16.133 61 laps
12. M Schumacher Ferrari - 1:16.188 76 laps
13. Karthikeyan Jordan - 1:19.179 76 laps
14. Monteiro Jordan - 1:19.718 30 laps

RBR cars very close and evenly matched
Zonta quicker in the interim car than Trulli's new version of the TF105
Jordans still somewhat off the pace.
As a reference point the 2004 pole at Barcelona was 1:15.022 - although testing and qualifying times are hard to compare, it gives an indication of the pace.

[Dani Filth]

http://circuit.pde-racing.info/circu...codi=09B&fin=N

you can see every lap of the drivers .

[Dani Filth]

from what i read . Alonso for example did a 1m14 . but no other lap in the 1m15.
Fisichella did a few 1m14 in the morning and in the afternoon again . 1m16's

[Javi]

Well, it is interesting, take a look ath the above webpage with every lap, and you will see that barrichello´s best lap came on the very last of a 16 lap run, something similar with Montoya and fisichella, very fast laps at the end of a 20 or so lap run, while Coulthard, after a similar run, could do no better than 1:16 high.
Very interesting website, thanks for the link!!!

[Dani Filth]

btw . during the live timming i saw a 1m13.9 from montoya lap 100 i think . but i see it was corrected .