Race sharing-A sign of the times? (Merged)

Marbot · 29 Dec 2005, 18:43 (Ref:1491555)

The German GP is to possibly alternate between Hockenheim and the Nurburgring.Here. Is this something that could become international as well as national?

Louis B. · 29 Dec 2005, 18:46 (Ref:1491556)

It will have to. There are too many GPs such that one can no longer justify having 2 GPs in the same country during the same f1 season.

Marbot · 29 Dec 2005, 18:50 (Ref:1491559)

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Originally Posted by Louis B.

It will have to. There are too many GPs such that one can no longer justify having 2 GPs in the same country during the same f1 season.

Well perhaps it was only a matter of time as regards national GPs.But what about the likes of China alternating with say Malaysia.There are so many countries lining up for a GP i think this may become a common place thing in the future.

Marbot · 29 Dec 2005, 18:54 (Ref:1491561)

BE is all for it.http://www.f1racing.net/en/news.php?newsID=106261

Louis B. · 29 Dec 2005, 18:56 (Ref:1491562)

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Originally Posted by martyn bott

Well perhaps it was only a matter of time as regards national GPs.But what about the likes of China alternating with say Malaysia.There are so many countries lining up for a GP i think this may become a common place thing in the future.

For mid or long term, I fear that chances are greater to see GPs alternating between countries in Europe and North America than within Asia.

EERO · 29 Dec 2005, 18:58 (Ref:1491564)

Its been done before. Through the '70's, the British GP alternated between Brands Hatch and Silverstone. The German GP went back and forth from Hockenheim to the Nurburgring from 1970 until settling at Hockenheim in 77. The French GP went from Rouen, Rhiems, and Clermont Ferrand. Canada from St Jovite to Mosport from 67 through 74.

Marbot · 29 Dec 2005, 19:03 (Ref:1491565)

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Originally Posted by EERO

Its been done before. Through the '70's, the British GP alternated between Brands Hatch and Silverstone. The German GP went back and forth from Hockenheim to the Nurburgring from 1970 until settling at Hockenheim in 77. The French GP went from Rouen, Rhiems, and Clermont Ferrand. Canada from St Jovite to Mosport from 67 through 74.

Nationally,sure it has.But internationally it would be a whole new ball game.

TheNewBob · 29 Dec 2005, 19:20 (Ref:1491573)

I say alternate between Magny-Cours and Hungaroring each year - then we only get one seriously horrible & boring older circuit each year instead of two!

chillibowl · 29 Dec 2005, 19:40 (Ref:1491582)

with the amount of money needed to build, maintain and upgrade tracks, who would want to sign up for a race if they can't get that race there every year.

also why would someone be willing to give up their race to a another track in their own country if the other group cant even run a race at a profit.

i understand that others want in so just limit it to one race per country and have that race go to the highest bidder provided each bidder meets a minimum requirement of facilities etc.

**Bononi** · 29 Dec 2005, 21:27 (Ref:1491636)

It would be better to each country have only one race, and I think there should be more races in the Americas, like Mexico and Argentina.

Nintendo · 29 Dec 2005, 21:38 (Ref:1491642)

probably, but i agree with some of you that it should be one gp per nation per season. They really should bring back the old Hockenheimring.

safc_fan89 · 29 Dec 2005, 21:46 (Ref:1491650)

I think alternating like that is a good idea. But really it's the European GP that needs alternating. If there was to be one German race, would Imola become the European GP? Or would it rotate around different, deserving venues? There are some good tracks in Europe that aren't being used.

safc_fan89 · 29 Dec 2005, 21:47 (Ref:1491651)

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Originally Posted by martyn bott

Well perhaps it was only a matter of time as regards national GPs.But what about the likes of China alternating with say Malaysia.There are so many countries lining up for a GP i think this may become a common place thing in the future.

I can't see that happening.

**Adam43** · 29 Dec 2005, 23:08 (Ref:1491691)

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Originally Posted by martyn bott

The German GP is to possibly alternate between Hockenheim and the Nurburgring.Here. Is this something that could become international as well as national?

A sign of the times? Last time this sort of thing happened it was from an era everyone thought was a golden era.

Are we falling over ourselves to find the awfullness of the modern era, or did we miss what was actually good about the good times?

Nintendo · 29 Dec 2005, 23:27 (Ref:1491706)

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

A sign of the times? Last time this sort of thing happened it was from an era everyone thought was a golden era.

Are we falling over ourselves to find the awfullness of the modern era, or did we miss what was actually good about the good times?

Good Question. The golden era was a time when driving was left up to the drivers. The modern is the technology battle coupled with driving talent. at the end of the day, you can;t really compare the two

**Adam43** · 29 Dec 2005, 23:37 (Ref:1491712)

Well I didn't think I'd bend the thread that much! Perhaps we are all going to die.

codename_47 · 29 Dec 2005, 23:54 (Ref:1491714)

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

Well I didn't think I'd bend the thread that much! Perhaps we are all going to die.

From thread bending? I'd like to see how!

The new shaped Hockenheim and the new-ish Nurburgring are both so bland that I could care less whether I see them each once a year or once every other year....

I would say that Hockenhiem puts on marginally better races but it's still not the best of tracks.

I often wonder why, back in the day, Brands Hatch or Donington didn't join in with the p**s take "GP of San Marino" "GP of Europe" type idea and stage a "GP of Wales" or "GP of Scotland" or something.....well, if it's good enough for the Germans and Italians!

**Bononi** · 30 Dec 2005, 01:08 (Ref:1491734)

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

Perhaps we are all going to die.

Sign of the times... we are all going to die...

I've read it somewhere before.

**Adam43** · 30 Dec 2005, 07:55 (Ref:1491787)

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Originally Posted by codename_47

I often wonder why, back in the day, Brands Hatch or Donington didn't join in with the p**s take "GP of San Marino" "GP of Europe" type idea and stage a "GP of Wales" or "GP of Scotland" or something.....well, if it's good enough for the Germans and Italians!

? Whenever there were two GP in Britain in one year the other one was always called the European GP.

kmsport · 30 Dec 2005, 07:59 (Ref:1491789)

maybe go to Australia once every two years

ascarmarshal · 30 Dec 2005, 09:35 (Ref:1491814)

According to BBCi this morning there is a report that the two German F1 races will be merged as Hockenhiem could be bankrupt by April and the Nurburgring attendances have been falling since the peak of 350,000 a few years ago.

ASCII Man · 30 Dec 2005, 09:40 (Ref:1491820)

Hmmm... Bernie will come and save the day perhaps?

ensign14 · 30 Dec 2005, 09:46 (Ref:1491822)

Appalling that the German fans these days appear to be so blinkered that they are only interested if a German has a shot at winning.

But Germany does not deserve 2 races anyway, so this is a Good Thing.

And I would love it if Hockenheim went bust as a result of *******izing the circuit. Serve them right.

safc_fan89 · 30 Dec 2005, 10:24 (Ref:1491828)

How will 'merging' the races help? Perhaps if the circuits didn;t have to pay to host an F1 race, there would be no problems.

maximus · 30 Dec 2005, 10:26 (Ref:1491829)

Agreed, what Bernie charges to host an F1 meeting is ridiculous.

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