Murphy

plonkey · 26 Mar 2006, 06:10 (Ref:1560818)

He would still be racing if he was able to lift iff to conserve.
A mirror image of BAthurst as far as I am concened.

promax · 26 Mar 2006, 06:14 (Ref:1560826)

if that was the case he'd be the only one as the race finished a while ago

TSR · 26 Mar 2006, 06:14 (Ref:1560829)

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Originally Posted by plonkey

He would still be racing if he was able to lift iff to conserve.
A mirror image of BAthurst as far as I am concened.

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plonkey · 26 Mar 2006, 06:16 (Ref:1560832)

It hasn't finished on my TV yet..QLD

bloggs · 26 Mar 2006, 06:30 (Ref:1560846)

Jamie Wincup wins the race

Rick · 26 Mar 2006, 13:16 (Ref:1561340)

makes a mistake the corner before, gets passed, red mist, refuses to give up a lost cause - does sound familiar!!

911 · 26 Mar 2006, 19:30 (Ref:1561517)

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Originally Posted by Rick

makes a mistake the corner before, gets passed, red mist, refuses to give up a lost cause - does sound familiar!!

Sure does.
I used to be a fan of his even though he drove a Holden.
It getting harder and harder to defend his stupid actions.
Ingall didn't give him alot of room to move back into line, but it seems 'Mr Potatoe Head' put himself in that position.
Got a huge amount of respect though for Skaifes actions after this needless accident.

dddlc · 26 Mar 2006, 20:54 (Ref:1561594)

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Originally Posted by 911

Got a huge amount of respect though for Skaifes actions after this needless accident.

Ditto from me on that comment. Skaife isn't one who I normally follow or like, but he had every right to go up and snot Mr. Potato Head. He didn't do anything except help Murphy out of the car.

Cool Phil · 26 Mar 2006, 21:00 (Ref:1561598)

If trying to pass in motor sport is a mistake I need to watch golf. At lest Murph had a go and entertained us. I bet he knew he was introuble before he got to that cornner but who backs off in motor sport. Yes he should have lifted his foot but that is easy to say now. Sorry Skaife there is another day all the best for Puke

hml2777 · 26 Mar 2006, 21:16 (Ref:1561615)

Did I miss something, why would Skaife want to punch Murphy. Skaife pranged all on his own, he was out wide too, the only thing Murphy did wrong was that he was in front of Skaife and Skaife had to hit the brakes to avoid hitting Murphy up the arse.

You would have thought that Skaife would know not to be out that wide on that corner.

Peregrine · 26 Mar 2006, 22:10 (Ref:1561663)

I have only just stopped laughing....... what a dropkick.

Vanilla Dice · 26 Mar 2006, 22:11 (Ref:1561664)

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Originally Posted by hml2777

Did I miss something, why would Skaife want to punch Murphy. Skaife pranged all on his own, he was out wide too, the only thing Murphy did wrong was that he was in front of Skaife and Skaife had to hit the brakes to avoid hitting Murphy up the arse.

You would have thought that Skaife would know not to be out that wide on that corner.

He did hit Murphy up the tail, th ebonnet of the #2 HRT Simsmetal reject was well pushed up and damaged.

Pro Racer · 26 Mar 2006, 23:05 (Ref:1561695)

him and dumbrell were level all the way from turn 7 and then just before the braking zone murph had backed off because his nose was level with dumbrells backdoor bu could not slot in because ingall gave him no room.even skaife said that and skaife was in the best position to see that.

RotorFan · 26 Mar 2006, 23:11 (Ref:1561702)

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Originally Posted by 911

Sure does.
I used to be a fan of his even though he drove a Holden.
It getting harder and harder to defend his stupid actions.
Ingall didn't give him alot of room to move back into line, but it seems 'Mr Potatoe Head' put himself in that position.
Got a huge amount of respect though for Skaifes actions after this needless accident.

Well maybe - just maybe - Skaife has been like this all along? Its why I'm a fan of him. He's a top bloke. I can see people wouldn't have liked his dominance or abrasiveness but to attack him personally as has happened over the years (not saying you're one) is just silly.

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Originally Posted by dddlc

Ditto from me on that comment. Skaife isn't one who I normally follow or like, but he had every right to go up and snot Mr. Potato Head. He didn't do anything except help Murphy out of the car.

No one has a right to do that.

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Originally Posted by hml2777

Did I miss something, why would Skaife want to punch Murphy. Skaife pranged all on his own, he was out wide too, the only thing Murphy did wrong was that he was in front of Skaife and Skaife had to hit the brakes to avoid hitting Murphy up the arse.

You would have thought that Skaife would know not to be out that wide on that corner.

You need to watch the footage again to get the real story.

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Originally Posted by pwr fan

him and dumbrell were level all the way from turn 7 and then just before the braking zone murph had backed off because his nose was level with dumbrells backdoor bu could not slot in because ingall gave him no room.even skaife said that and skaife was in the best position to see that.

100% correct. Look at the footage again. Ingall is weaving around like a maniac and into turn 8 Murphy didn't have many outs.

911 · 26 Mar 2006, 23:19 (Ref:1561711)

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Originally Posted by RotorFan

100% correct. Look at the footage again. Ingall is weaving around like a maniac and into turn 8 Murphy didn't have many outs.

That's what I was trying to put across in my last post RotorFan

Pro Racer · 26 Mar 2006, 23:29 (Ref:1561714)

and well done to skaife also if it was the other way round murph would do the same or anyone else in that matter.takes me back to CL's smash at calder in 1999 (much worse) but neally everyone stoped to help and was watching my hrt year review video the other day and murph was first on the scene.but even if you don't really get along with the bloke you would help him for example (murph and ambrose) or (skaife and ingall).

Average Punter · 26 Mar 2006, 23:36 (Ref:1561718)

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Originally Posted by dddlc

Ditto from me on that comment. Skaife isn't one who I normally follow or like, but he had every right to go up and snot Mr. Potato Head. He didn't do anything except help Murphy out of the car.

What bugged me was that on TEN, Crackers Diffey was expecting a confrontation and was almost willing a punch up.

He sounded a tad disappointed that World Championship Wrestling didn't start...

Pro Racer · 26 Mar 2006, 23:48 (Ref:1561729)

exactly right AP they want entertainment thats why they intrduced reverse grids i think punch ups is a bit over the top and after the race most of the blokes get on well.After the race skaife nd murph probablly had a talk about it and settled their differences on the matter at hand.

deeks6 · 27 Mar 2006, 00:11 (Ref:1561754)

I think a few people need to watch this video again clearly...Murf has nobody to blame but himself - Ingall was 4 or 5 car lengths back and no threat to him getting back on line. In any case, he should have done it much earlier when it was clear that Dumb-bell had the better run out of 7. I (seemingly one of the few and I'n a Ford man at that) like Murf because he is an out and out racer but it's also the thing (in a Gilles Villeneuve kind of way) that stops him from being more successful. He just does not know when to take the conservative route. However, the sport would be mighty boring without him.

As for Skaife, I think he was going to have an accident all by himself regardless of Murf and his body language said the same. He is going to hit the wall before he brakes again to avoid poleaxing the rear of the #51 - he was already on the dirty side and sliding. Maybe he, like Ingall, figured there was a gain to be made on Dummy/Murf but I would have thought by now that anyone would know that wide on turn 8 means a concrete kiss.

Don't know whats going on with Skaife - he's undoubtedly one of the fastest and finest drivers this country's produced but he's made more mistakes in the last few years than his first 15 put together.

DKGandBH · 27 Mar 2006, 00:18 (Ref:1561757)

I acually agreee with you here deeks...

DKGandBH

observer · 27 Mar 2006, 01:14 (Ref:1561798)

I don't see why Skaife had reason to be cranky with Spud.
Watched the Vid 3 times, seems to me Skaife done it all on his own!

Pro Racer · 27 Mar 2006, 01:31 (Ref:1561812)

(off topic) why did murphy have the white helmet in the saturday race but his old one on sunday?(on topic)skaife was on the same line as murph he would of ended in the wall the only thing that hapened because of murph being there was the extra front end damage from runing up the back of murph.

KE30MAN · 27 Mar 2006, 01:35 (Ref:1561817)

Deeks. Nails on the head. I agree 100% with everything including your assesment on MS. Once upon a time he just didn't make mistakes.

Pro Racer · 27 Mar 2006, 01:48 (Ref:1561824)

drivers are only human they do make mistakes allthough he used to be not make them much.

Senna05 · 27 Mar 2006, 01:48 (Ref:1561825)

Hmmmm....
skaife was definitely wider than most, however, I only saw his vehicle move towards the wall when the SLAMMED (yes, slammed, as he slowed rapidly) the brakes on with his wheel still turned. I ask you all, when you are cornering what happens when you apply the brakes rapidly?

He only hit the wall because he applied the brakes rapidly. If he was further in towards the apex, he would have slid tail first with the same pressure of brake application.

I do agree with you all, however, that it could have been avoided if he was further in towards the apex. But without Murph's accident in front I feel he would have avoided contact with the wall.

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