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Old 6 Nov 2003, 21:25 (Ref:775244)   #1
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Chevron B19

Could peolpe shed a light onto the history of Chevron B19 especially in Europe?

-Chevron B19 Chassis No. 27, driven by Brian Redman & Mike Hailwood

-Race debut: September 1971 at Nurbergring 500km (?)

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Old 6 Nov 2003, 23:12 (Ref:775315)   #2
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It's a long shot but you could try contacting Vin malkie I know he still owns a B19 and has lots of info on the car. Or alternatively try the book the Chevron Story by David Gordon.

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Old 7 Nov 2003, 09:02 (Ref:775749)   #3
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That car came here to South Africa for the Springbok Series in November 1971,along with the other works car which had a Cosworth Vega engine.One of these two cars,not sure which, was bought by a local driver and stayed here.
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Old 7 Nov 2003, 22:32 (Ref:776374)   #4
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[B]It's a long shot but you could try contacting Vin malkie I know he still owns a B19 and has lots of info on the car. Or alternatively try the book the Chevron Story by David Gordon.
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Hope this helps?

Thanks for the suggestion. I will try that as well.

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That car came here to South Africa for the Springbok Series in November 1971,along with the other works car which had a Cosworth Vega engine.One of these two cars,not sure which, was bought by a local driver and stayed here.
If I am correct, Chassis No. 27 then went to Japan to be used for the Grand Champion series. Was it driven by Brian Redman and Mike Hailwood?

Does anybody know which one stayed in South Africa, which local driver bought it and driven by which driver at Spring bok?
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Old 7 Nov 2003, 23:44 (Ref:776419)   #5
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According to Autosport reports, John Rowe ran an "ex-works" B19 at the Cape Town round of the Springbok series in November 1972, with a twin cam engine, but in later races, it's described as a B21. Maybe it was just updated to B21-spec.

That's the only private B19 I have in the Springbok series
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Old 10 Nov 2003, 21:01 (Ref:779179)   #6
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According to Autosport reports, John Rowe ran an "ex-works" B19 at the Cape Town round of the Springbok series in November 1972, with a twin cam engine, but in later races, it's described as a B21. Maybe it was just updated to B21-spec.

That's the only private B19 I have in the Springbok series
Thanks for the info Jeremy.

Could someone confirm that chassis number 27 was driven by Brian Redman and Mike Hailwood in 1971?
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Old 12 Nov 2003, 11:34 (Ref:780898)   #7
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Jeremy,
You are correct,John Rowe's car was a B19 updated/entered as a B21.I have always thought that as he used a twincam or later a BDA in this car ,it was more likely that he bought a rolling chassis after the Springbok i.e the unsuccsessful Cosworth Vega car less engine and FG gearbox.
Kojima...what were the dates of the Grand Champion series in Japan that you refer to ?
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Old 3 Apr 2006, 11:26 (Ref:1609673)   #8
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Chevron B19

Does any one have factory lists of the chassis numbers for Chevron B19

Chevron and Lola made similar amounts of cars with the evolution models over the years 71-75

Chevron went down the tune frame route (derived from the B16 car) until the monocoque car of the B26-whilst Lola had the monocoque from 1970 210/212 car onto the 290-298 version

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Old 5 Apr 2006, 01:45 (Ref:1609676)   #9
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I dont know if this will help or not....but here is some info:

B16S-70-01 Ford FVC 1970 Gr.6 Chevron Cars (Redman) => Team Gunston ...=> Jo Siffert Automobiles Racing Ltd....=> Don Shead
B19-71-004 Ford FVC 1971 Gr.6 Worcester Racing Association Colin Pool => Richard Arnold (end 1989) Raced bby Colin Poolin historic races
B19-71-007 Ford FVC 1971 Gr.6 Red Rose Racing (J. Bridges)
B19-71-008 Ford FVC 1971 Gr.6 Red Rose Racing (John Hine)
B19-71-010 Ford FVC 1971 Gr.6 Worcestershire Racing Association (John Burton)
B19-71-011 1971 Gr.6 Kent Abrahamsson Raced by Abrahamsson in Supersports
B19-71-012 1971 Gr.6 Canon Cameras Racing (E.Swart)
B19-71-023 1971 Gr.6 Don Brooks by Brooks for sale
B19-71-034 1971 Gr.6 ~Tilmant
B19-71-070 1971 Gr.6 Jonas Qvarnström Raced by Qvarnström in Supersports
B19-71-124 1971 Gr.6 Helen Bashford Raced by Bashford in Supersports

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Old 5 Apr 2006, 01:59 (Ref:1609677)   #10
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The name Chevron came from the sign that showed two roads comming together outside of a local pub Bennett went to. the "B" in the Chassis numbers stood for Bridges for his financial contributions to the company. Also they only produced chassis numbers in multiples on 11.

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Old 7 Apr 2006, 14:16 (Ref:1609681)   #11
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Hi guys

If we're going to use the data from the Chevron page on classiccars.com, the least we should do is credit the author. Really, we should be getting their permission or only using individual items of date - not the whole page so blatantly.

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Old 7 Apr 2006, 15:07 (Ref:1609682)   #12
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Thank you, Allen; a good spot! We must observe copyright law as well as give credit where it is due. Since we are at that point, do we have any solid information that we can add to the above info.

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Old 8 Apr 2006, 23:58 (Ref:1609683)   #13
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Hi Guys
I've been away to europe and backhence the lack of response form me!!
thanks to Zappa for info so far
I'm sure Martin K would be happy to join in the thread and give any info
I'm not sure if he follows the 10-Tenths site; maybe an mail to him and a few links will kindle his interest.

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Old 10 Apr 2006, 16:28 (Ref:1609688)   #14
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A bit of B19 stuff found in Sport Auto's report on the 1971 300 km d'Auvergne (August 1971 p63-65).

Bridges B19-71/7
Hine B19-71/8
Burton B19-71/10
Swart B19-71/12

The Chevron book says 35 B19s built, all in 1971 (so chassis 1-10, 12, 14-21, 23-32 and 34-39?). All had 1790cc engines except for one with a 2000cc Abarth and one with a 3000cc BMW Alpina.

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Old 10 Apr 2006, 16:33 (Ref:1609689)   #15
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i think swart stil has his original b19 in usa
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Old 13 Apr 2006, 18:39 (Ref:1609690)   #16
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Hi guys

If we're going to use the data from the Chevron page on classiccars.com, the least we should do is credit the author. Really, we should be getting their permission or only using individual items of date - not the whole page so blatantly.

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I have now received a reply from Rod at Classicscars who has kindly agreed that we may keep and develop the information posted in this thread which was taken from www.classicscars.com website. Please note that this permission only extends to the information already posted here.
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I used to own B19-17, which I raced in 1992/3 and possibly 1994.
When I went back to racing modern cars BPR/FIA-GT the car wasn't used for some years and I sold it in april 1998 to the UK (Simon Wayne).
It had a Richardson BDG and it was a great car to drive.

My moment of glory was beating Mr. B19 (Ed Swart) at Zandvoort in the SuperSports race!

Shouldn't have sold it............
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Thanks fangio

Do you recall any history of B19-17 before you had it?

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Do you recall any history of B19-17 before you had it?

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Not Really, but I think it was in South Africa for some time, and then the story is that Stirling Moss bought it, thinking it was a B16. I guess he got his numbers switched.
When he found out is was not a B16 Coupe he sold it and I got it from Belgium. (Gerard Burggraf)
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so did SM really think a b19 was a 16 shape car or was there mis description involved??
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so did SM really think a b19 was a 16 shape car or was there mis description involved??
I think he wanted a coupe (B16) but just made a mistake and thought the B19 was the coupe.
Maybe I should give SM a call and ask him about this.
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I saw Dave Garrnet use this on the hills in the late 70's, it was crashed in Jersey in 78 and never made it to Gursney, but made it to Val Des Terres the following year.

He was using it in 77 as well, he set the class hill record that year that remained unbroken for a couple of seasons

Not sure what type it is as the front does not seem to match any other type.
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Old 19 Sep 2006, 20:48 (Ref:1714121)   #23
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Chevron B19 chassis info

I have just received a B19 in my shop for rebuild i know that Derrick was supperstisious about the number 11 and its multiples atleast that was what i was told? But the car i have is marked b19/71 33 and its on the roll bar the chassis plate and the back right side of the chassis around the gearbox support any help with this one would be greatly appreciated BJ
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The number on the back right side of the chassis would be a frame number and it is unusual for the frame number to match the chassis number. There were more frames than cars of course, as extra frames were needed to rebuild bent cars.

One possibility - and I'd emphasise that this is just a possibility - is that the car lost its chassis number at some point in its history and a replacement plate was made using the number found on the back of the frame. This means that the number on the chassis plate is very probably not the same number that would have been on the original plate and will not therefore match up against Chevron's production records.

This is quite a common problem with Lolas, Chevrons and Marchs from this period.

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thanks for you feed back as i said in the first post the roll bar also has the same numbers and i walked over to my friends shop who has a B21 and looked on the car in the same places the roll bar has been upgraded to a larger bar hence no number but the back frame has am B21 72 3 and the chassis plate for the car also has the same numbers are there any coralation in the records of the frame number to car number i cant beleve that there are that many fake built cars out there thanks BJ
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