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Old 15 Mar 2007, 19:08 (Ref:1867521)   #1
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Improving traction

I'm currently designing a RWD race car and one of the main areas is to get as much traction as possible out of corners. It has double a-arm suspension all round. I try to move as much weight as possible to the rear but do you have some other tricks that can be done to design of the chassis to improve traction?
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Old 15 Mar 2007, 22:22 (Ref:1867721)   #2
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what type of car is it? How much RWHP & RWTQ are you looking at?

What size tires are you allowed to use?

actully a well corner ballance race car handles better.
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Old 15 Mar 2007, 22:54 (Ref:1867749)   #3
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200kg in the boot?

Do you also have a skitish rear under braking when the weight it transfered to the front?
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Old 16 Mar 2007, 07:46 (Ref:1868007)   #4
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MM Left and Right corners? Black stuff or Dirt. Cof G placement (and RC') are important to get the weight transferring around. Shock control is the big winner in controlling weight transfer these days. I don't mean that you have to spend squillions of $ on shocks but a 'balanced' car is a definate must and I reckon most of the guys here agree with the balance thing just that sometimes it's hard to achieve. The single biggest thing for traction is tyres. What are you planning to use? A balanced package takes time to sort thats for sure..........trikes
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Old 18 Mar 2007, 14:35 (Ref:1870239)   #5
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what type of car is it? How much RWHP & RWTQ are you looking at?

What size tires are you allowed to use?

actully a well corner ballance race car handles better.
It is a very special car, I just want to get some general guidelines to see how it can be implemented on my design. The car is raced on dirt, L & R corners and only one type of tyres are allowed. I try to make it underweight so I can move ballast to the rear.

Summary so far, traction is mostly a setup thing so dampers are important ?

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too much rear wt, will cause understeer up front.
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Old 19 Mar 2007, 11:44 (Ref:1871291)   #7
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Sounds like a grass track racer. Yes? Are u allowed to add or regroove the tyres? I have a couple of tricks concerning gooves.
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Old 25 Mar 2007, 20:09 (Ref:1876107)   #8
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THR has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
anti squat is important too, if the car dont squat it move forward instead of down.
ie, angling the wishbones towards the CofG
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Geometry and weight distribution are key. You also need tyre data to design your kinematics to work with the tyre. remember that shocks are the final part of the equation - the geometry and spring rates will determine the majority of how the car handles.
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