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27 Feb 2012, 07:35 (Ref:3031765) | #251 | ||
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I dont need to back that statement up in anyway because i justify it by saying I don't see it happening though, I think I'm in the minority, I just like to dream. If you bring an opinion to the table, that fine, but surely it has some logic behind it. I'm, sure you have some logic behind your opinion also, would you like to share it? |
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Nothing wrong with the logic of 'because that's what I enjoy'. A car taken off the road, made safe and reliable on the track and so having real relevence to what you can buy. Many of the non-enthusiast public believe that's what happens anyway!
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27 Feb 2012, 20:39 (Ref:3032072) | #253 | |
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27 Feb 2012, 21:12 (Ref:3032095) | #254 | |
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yes its a logical as making every one eat chocolate ice cream because thats what i prefer
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27 Feb 2012, 21:30 (Ref:3032106) | #255 | ||
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27 Feb 2012, 23:21 (Ref:3032170) | #256 | ||
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28 Feb 2012, 00:37 (Ref:3032196) | #257 | ||
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Is today's announcement that 888 are expanding to a 4-car HRT squad to manage the Walkinshaw entity as well?
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28 Feb 2012, 02:35 (Ref:3032234) | #258 | |||
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Engines must be production car based with a parity system as per 2013 regs. Control 6 speed & IRS. Manufacturers to release, say 50 "Aero Package" homologation roadcars per model to homologate the Aero. These roadcars could run whatever mechanical package that HSV, FPR, Nismo, whoever are currently using & it gives in a real tie in to the roadcar ala GTHO, A9X etc & I would imagine they would sell pretty well too. No doubt I'll get shot down, but as I said I can dream, enjoy your icecream. |
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28 Feb 2012, 03:38 (Ref:3032258) | #259 | |||
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The safety aspect is an inescapeable fact however, you can't make a road car shell as safe as you can a dedicated racing shell. |
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28 Feb 2012, 04:33 (Ref:3032263) | #260 | |
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And not to mention the added costs of building using a road shell, and the added expense of repairs which take longer... The whole reason why they ditched the road shell
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28 Feb 2012, 06:09 (Ref:3032278) | #262 | ||
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road shells are made for the road
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28 Feb 2012, 07:47 (Ref:3032294) | #263 | |||
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Production shells (and other production parts) would presumebly lead to slower speeds too, therefore safer. |
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28 Feb 2012, 09:12 (Ref:3032317) | #264 | ||
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29 Feb 2012, 10:20 (Ref:3032922) | #270 | |||
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Having said that, i own a Lada Samara, if only the Russians had produced something like that.... The question still stands though, if production-based cars are so unsafe to race, why does that only apply to this series, and not all motorsport in general?? |
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29 Feb 2012, 10:34 (Ref:3032928) | #271 | |
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racer , take a look at the top levels of motorsport throughout the world, they are not production cars
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29 Feb 2012, 11:28 (Ref:3032949) | #272 | |||
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Both Bergmann and Watson's fatal accidents at Bathurst are an example of production based machinery being well outside its safety zone. A production car may well be acceptable for an Improved Production car because they don't race every weekend and they don't do very long races, ergo the risk is reasonably low. However if you're a professional series and you race week in week out and for longer events, your risk rises. V8Supercar COTF didn't just blink into existence, its the product of continual evolution from something that DID start as production shells. Also when we talk about "production" cars from the 70s and 80s with rose coloured glasses on... Do you think the GMP&A A9X shells were really that close to production? What about acid dipped M3s with panels so thin you could bend them with a manila folder? Or Sierras that got so silly in the end you couldn't fit the wheels on the car if you were not cheating. As soon as someone is building a "racing" version of a production car its going to be extensively modified, and there comes a time where its going to be cheaper to produce a suitable facsimile that is faster, cheaper and safer, while being externally identical. Compare that to any of the other V8 race series around the world: DTM, Turismo Carretera, V8 superstars and you'll see the COTF looks very production faithful by comparison, and I think it will produce better racing. |
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29 Feb 2012, 12:01 (Ref:3032971) | #273 | ||
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How can the racing be any better, or worse for that matter, if the same changes are made to all the cars ? They might be more enjoyabe for the pilot but that's about it.
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29 Feb 2012, 12:30 (Ref:3032994) | #274 | ||
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The configuration of the new car will make it more racy and more sportscar like than the current car.
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