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Likely that life is great in semi-retirement, and that being recognised favourably by your peers is about all you can ask for after a lifetime in a sport you love.
This one, and the one with Mr McLaughlin are likely causes of pride and angst in different proportions... and its water under the bridge now.. |
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It's called irreconcilable differences.
You can move on, and not keep in contact with someone. Perhaps you're reading way too much into it? |
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I don't reckon Jenson Button gets a Christmas card from Frank Williams either.
The facts in my view, are that the team that SvG signed for, was no longer extant for the upcoming year of the contract, and I definitely feel he was justified in breaking his contract on that ground alone. |
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She refuses to play the gender card...and then plays the card in the same sentence
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Regardless of whether you are a SVG fan or not, thats pretty poor that Betty has sunk this low to accuse him of this. I very much doubt that if Ross and Jimmy were sisters and not brothers he would have had a problem racing for them.
For a team owner to be spouting this rubbish cant be a good look for the sponsors, they say any publicity is good publicity |
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after he turned reynolds around at PI in 2015 and took out the championship contender. Reynolds fronted up to him and then he pulled out the "racist" word on facebook, It was common knowldege at the time reported in the motorsport media
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Very different from Betty's sexism claim but I get where you're coming from. It's interesting that Betty seems to think that the only difference between SBR and Erebus at the start was her, but in fact there were some other Erebutians who were part of the new structure - maybe she's blanked those people out of her mind? |
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Ok i'll bite, so i've gone back to the restart of this thread on pg48 (this is pg52 the way may settings are for reference) and I have found 2x articles linked, both Speedcafe, 1 talking with SvG, the other with Betty. Neither of those "parties" mentioned "unconscionable conduct", Speedcafe did, and only alluded to it being used by a "party". So I casted the memory back and recall a counter-claim from SVG and his Father/Manager asking for evidence of when the SBR/Erebus deal was inked and the contents of said deal. Speedcafe in the article you mention also included the below from SvG:
“What I should have done differently was to just be honest with the media a lot more and tell them the story rather than the team saying it,” Van Gisbergen told Speedcafe.com. “All of that stuff (about retirement and depression) was never from me. “I kept pretty quiet and to myself which is kind of the person I am and a lot of people heard the wrong story and still believe that. “You get fans that are still ****ed off about it and I should have said something (at the time) but didn’t. “I wasn’t in a good place (mentally) but it was portrayed that I was in a worse one. Why isn't that comment being mentioned in the argument with the same fervor as your disdain for him? I've seen comments from SVG saying Betty spoke with him at the 12hr in 2014 (admittedly it was likely a Phelps article), which disputes what Betty said in her interview with Speedcafe this week. Why are you only taking one side of the story from Betty and treating it as gospel? Why aren't you taking into account the counter claim by SVG and his Father? Why aren't you taking into account the request for a public apology by SVG to Erebus? Why aren't you taking into account SVG's claims that the "quiting" media release was not his words, so how can he be held to them? Do you know the outcome of the out-of-court settlement? And if so, what does that outcome point to in terms of what actually happened? Personally I take all of this into account, and have decided that I know enough to know that I don't know enough, which means I don't cast unfounded aspersions. Worst case this is all a he says-she says scenario. Unless you have some contrary evidence outside of news and media releases... |
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2016 SVG wins championship.
2016 Betty wins grumpy team owner award. 2017 Erebus will still be guarding the back marker positions! |
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As a "rookie team", of course.
So let's move on. Perhaps it's best to put the thread on ice for a little while, until new information comes to light? At this point in time, I don't think taking pot-shots at eachother is going to change the reality of the matter at hand. |
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