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Old 28 Apr 2003, 16:16 (Ref:582961)   #1
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BMW wheel angel

I have wondered this for ages but is it me or do the front tyres on the BMW production car look at more of an angel than the other cars. If so why is this?
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Old 28 Apr 2003, 18:52 (Ref:583100)   #2
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I was having just this discussion the other day. I know the camber of the wheels can be adjusted as part of the car's set up but not why its so extreme on the Beemer. I wondered if it was to do with it being RWD but was reminded that other RWD cars in the past didn't appear to have such extreme camber.
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Old 28 Apr 2003, 19:05 (Ref:583109)   #3
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they really do look incredibly angled don't they? they must have the minimal amount of tyre rubber on the track!
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Old 28 Apr 2003, 19:08 (Ref:583112)   #4
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Re: BMW wheel angel

Noooooow I get it!! You meant wheel ANGLE, not ANGEL as you typed!! Heck, you had me scratching my head-wheel angel??? What the heck is a wheel angel?? Some new automotive or motorsports term I haven't heard of before!!
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Old 28 Apr 2003, 19:52 (Ref:583147)   #5
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Yah, I was wondering what you meant by wheel "angel" as well.
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Old 28 Apr 2003, 20:03 (Ref:583158)   #6
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Old 30 Apr 2003, 05:54 (Ref:584567)   #7
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I have wondered the same thing: the camber - not angel

Is there something special in BMW front suspension like atleast there used to be in the rear? Maybe changing camber during body roll?

It would be nice to see used front tires of the car after race. I bet the outside is almost untouched. They could be using extreme camber to lessen the grip in front to get the car into balance...
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Old 30 Apr 2003, 07:10 (Ref:584613)   #8
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It's normal to adjust the camber, so that as the camber changes and tyre sidewall distorts during cornering, the temperature (which determines grip) and wear across the tyre surface is even. It may have something to do with camber gain in cornering being different to other cars, so needing more static negitive camber.

Of course there is a downside to high -ve camber (on the front end). When applying the brake, there is weight transfer, the front springs compress and the camber becomes even more negative.

Maybe static camber is made more -ve on the BMW, because FWD cars tend to have brake bias more toward the front than RWD cars? FWD cars might not be able to use the same high -ve camber as BMW because the braking ability of these cars would be too severly affected?

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