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Old 10 Oct 2004, 23:06 (Ref:1120612)   #1
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What Will The New Mayor Mean For The Street Race

Hubbard's won the mayoralty, from what I've heard he's not a fan of the Street Race, so I'm thinking the Street Race is going to go bye-bye unless the proverbial starts to hit the fan.

What's the go disruption wise for other street races?
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Old 10 Oct 2004, 23:34 (Ref:1120622)   #2
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Old 10 Oct 2004, 23:52 (Ref:1120634)   #3
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Chappelli , can you explain what street race yoor talking about please ?

I have no idea who or where it is your talking about
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 00:06 (Ref:1120639)   #4
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 00:09 (Ref:1120641)   #5
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Apologies, that'd be Auckland.

Our egotistical arrogant former mayor (god bless him)has been dethroned, only problem is that he was all for the street race (which replaces Pukekohe). The new guy appears to be a "please as many people as possible by doing nothing" type of guy.

Apologies for any confusion.
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 00:22 (Ref:1120646)   #6
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Being an Aucklander I'm amazed a guy can win dispite not having one policy that he stood for. Hope that we can keep the race as it will only do good for the city. What are the boys at avesco thinking here we go again another problem with NZ after the Date clashes and other things would it be easier to go elsewhere in the world
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 01:16 (Ref:1120673)   #7
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Being an Aucklander I'm amazed a guy can win dispite not having one policy that he stood for.

Probably low voter turn out. I just can't see this race going ahead.
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 05:13 (Ref:1120774)   #8
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Probably low voter turn out. I just can't see this race going ahead.
Local body elections always have a lower voter turnout when compared with general elections, but this year Auckland had a higher voter turnout that the previous local body elections - the 2001 elections where John Banks got in. One of the main reason for higher level of voting being so many people wanting to get rid of Banks. It's doubtful Banks ever would have become mayor if there had of been a higher voter turnout in 2001.

Having said that, Hubbard hasn't ruled out an Auckland Street Race as long as there can be some accomadation with Transit New Zealand and other interested parties. However Banks has upset so many people along the way, trying to railroad this race - and other projects - through, it's going to be difficult to see it going ahead in the currently proposed location.
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 05:30 (Ref:1120779)   #9
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Youve hit the head right on the nail Alfasud, "ïn the currently proposed location" Im sure It's gonna come down to a change of venue in the finish ços you just CANT stage such a mighty event straddling the two motorway offramps South. AND, its those two motorway off ramps that are directly effected and its those two offramps that are the ONLY two ramps that feed the City from the North Shore.. Silly plan from the start and one that seemed to have been foisted upon us with NO alternatives and with the take it or lose it'' line. Íf it doesnt go ahead..... where do we then stand with the "we will be here for the next 10 years" line that we got a few weeks ago. All very funny stuff and there is more going on in the background than any of US are liable to hear. Interesting.
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 07:41 (Ref:1120830)   #10
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NZ herald says more news will be released tomorrow Tuesday 12 Oct regarding the V8 race in the city.
I think its probably history in it's current proposed location and they will try and shift it somewhere else in the city. Which undoubtedly AVESCO won't like.
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 07:48 (Ref:1120833)   #11
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Pukekohe looks even better now
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 09:15 (Ref:1120898)   #12
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Cant even see that happenin! can you.
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 09:22 (Ref:1120900)   #13
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 18:53 (Ref:1121325)   #14
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At this point in time I'd say the V8's are a goner.
I think the good thing about Banks (granted he was a was a bit of a mayoral dictator) is that he got stuff done. If we all took the "it's a bad location because we don't have..." attitude we'd never of had the Americas Cup or the Commonwealth games because we didn't have facilities, easy solution; build what you need.
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 19:41 (Ref:1121394)   #15
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BAZzzzzzC: I have a wee pet project for you, mate.

Fuel up the 120Y and take a couple of loo rolls and a book and lunchbox if you must and get driving all over Auckland.

What is your Mission, should you choose to accept it? That's pretty straight forward, really, but you might need to take the fuel card too as you could be gone a while.

Your Mission, which I know you will accept, is to find a road that is the same length as Fanshawe Street in Auckland that can house pitlane and the start finish straight. One requirement is that this road is a minimum of 30 metres wide, per the FIA rulebook.

Fanshawe Street is going to be widened and will thus become a better access road to and from the Harbour Bridge for the other 360-odd days a year that there isn't racing.

May the force be with you on your Mission, Baz.

One more rule: You cannot use roads around the Auckland International Airport as these must be kept open at all times.
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Youve hit the head right on the nail Alfasud, "ïn the currently proposed location" Im sure It's gonna come down to a change of venue in the finish ços you just CANT stage such a mighty event straddling the two motorway offramps South. AND, its those two motorway off ramps that are directly effected and its those two offramps that are the ONLY two ramps that feed the City from the North Shore.. Silly plan from the start and one that seemed to have been foisted upon us with NO alternatives and with the take it or lose it'' line. Íf it doesnt go ahead..... where do we then stand with the "we will be here for the next 10 years" line that we got a few weeks ago. All very funny stuff and there is more going on in the background than any of US are liable to hear. Interesting.
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 20:13 (Ref:1121437)   #17
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A permanent circuit.
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Old 11 Oct 2004, 20:49 (Ref:1121485)   #18
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According to radio reports this morning, the race is looking more likely now Dick Hubbard is in charge. Not that Hubbard is keen on having the race, but because some of those blocking the event did so to hinder John Banks.

But of course Hubbard needs to get behind it 100%. Its been said he isn't too keen on it happening, so its still up in the air. A committment needs to be made, otherwise it'll become like the Wellington street race, which at least once a year is rumoured to be rising from the ashes. Fact is, the rumours happen so often, and there has been so little interest from the local council, that nobody really takes much notice anymore.

Its like John Crennan said, Dick Hubbard needs to listen to what people are telling him. If enough people want an Auckland street race, he should commit to it. New Zealand have to be careful, if this race dissapears from this country, it likely won't return.
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According to teletex, some report is been released today and its suppose to favour the race, suggesting that they can overcome the traffic problems.
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Tanguay wary on V8
12 October 2004
By JOHN MYERS

Mayor-elect Heather Tanguay wants to get a detailed grasp of the costs facing Palmerston North ratepayers before considering anything to do with city financial support for V8 supercar racing at Manfeild.


A more important part of Manfeild's future, she suggests, is as "the top A&P facility in New Zealand".

Auckland's plans for city V8 supercar racing took a hit with the landslide election of centre-leftist Dick Hubbard.

His deputy, Dr Bruce Hucker, immediately expressed doubt there would be majority support in the new council for the proposed races at Victoria Park.

The proposal goes to a resource consent hearing next month.

Mrs Tanguay said her election platform had been broadly based on taking care with rates and getting value for them.

"It needs to be very carefully considered whether (the major Manfeild circuit development) would be a cost to the ratepayers of Palmerston North," she said.

"We're under such pressure. Huge costs have been imposed by City Heart and the two new stadia. (Supercars at Manfeild) would have been possibly an added extra cost - and that's a message that I've been giving over the election period."

Mrs Tanguay said that, as a councillor, she had never seen any figures concerning city input to racing circuit development, should the Australian V8 Supercar promoters Avesco commit to future racing here. The most recent track upgrade figure publicly discussed was $12 million.

"But I haven't got the full figures - I never had."

A more important issue for the city, she said, was to achieve a just agreement between the Manawatu A&P Association, the city council and Manawatu District Council on the resiting of the association from Arena Manawatu to Manfeild.

"This would produce the top A&P facilities in New Zealand, so we can capitalise on the huge, wider Manfeild potential.

"It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity," Mrs Tanguay said.
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Old 12 Oct 2004, 06:09 (Ref:1121783)   #21
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Here's something from Murphy re your race..
http://xtramsn.co.nz/sport/0,,3969-3767004,00.html
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Can someone tell me what A&P stands for?
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Auckland is developing a reputation for not really being interested in events, it has emerged lately that concert promotors are starting to avoid Auckland as the council is not interested in attracting events there.
Now it also seems that the new mayor in Manawatu is not exactly excited about Supercars at Manfeild this may also go bye byes.
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1200Datto: A&P Shows are Agricultural and Pastoral Shows. However to clarify, for those of you Australians who may think otherwise, Agricultural Shows have nothing to do with engaging in certain acts with sheep.

It's where everyone shows of their cattle, sheep, wool, and horses, and rural suppliers show their latest and greatest and there are rides for the kids, candyfloss, and popcorn.

A great family day out!
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